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Nightrider23
Oct 07, 2021Guide
Nighthawk mesh Wifi 6 MR 60 and satellite
Hello, So I bought the Nighthawk Mesh Wifi 6 with 1 satellite about 1.5 years ago and I'll be honest it has given me troubles since day 1. The connection is strong and stable for periods of up t...
Nightrider23
Oct 07, 2021Guide
So I just fired up the Xbox right next to the router and tried the wireless test first and holy cow, its showing 232.89 Mbps Download Speed which is exactly what my iphone gets. Its like night and day faster. Its like a rocket with absolutely zero hesitation on streaming amazon prime or netflix now.
Now what can I do to get this same speed downstairs that's roughly 30 feet away from the router???
plemans
Oct 08, 2021Guru - Experienced User
You have 2 satellites?
Since its stable with just the router, try firing up one (just one) of the satellites. Maybe use that to hardwire in the xbox.
see if thats stable. If its not, try swapping satellites. Maybe the problem can be isolated to a specific satellite or device.
- Nightrider23Oct 08, 2021Guide
plemans wrote:You have 2 satellites?
Since its stable with just the router, try firing up one (just one) of the satellites. Maybe use that to hardwire in the xbox.
see if thats stable. If its not, try swapping satellites. Maybe the problem can be isolated to a specific satellite or device.
Yes I'm thankful that I found out the router is working good! Maybe it is the satellite? So I put the Xbox back downstairs and plugged the Satellite back in and did another test yesterday.
I moved the router to the ground on the 2nd floor which put it closer toward the Xbox. Then I moved the satellite to where its 10 feet from the Xbox, and at this spot the satellite was roughly 17 feet from the router.
My download speed jumped up to 90 Mbps download speed which was the highest I've seen it so far on the main floor in the living room.
So my question is.....do you think the satelite is the cuprit here? Should I try to move the router ever closer on the 2nd floor? If I did, could I use a longer Coax cable than the one Spectrum used? I could probably move it another 10 feet with a longer coax cable. I might have one laying around.
As far as connecting to the Satellite. You're saying that I can run an Ethernet from the Xbox into the Satellite? Thanks!
- plemansOct 08, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Something to keep in mind with the MK60 set. Its a dual band set and doesn't have the dedicated backhaul the triband setups have.
So if a device is connecting through the satellite, its going to take a roughly 50% speed hit because it doesn't have that dedicated backhaul (unless you hardwire in the satellites for a wired backhaul).
That happens because the satellite has to use the same chip to go router<---->satellite and then satellite<---->devices. And they can't do it at the same time.
From the sound of it you have a 200mbps plan?
and you're going to get some speed loss because of distance/obstructions with the satellite.
so hitting 90 mbps over the satellite on wireless is pretty reasonable if you're starting from a 200mbps plan.
Wired you should be faster speeds because the satellite is only going router-----satellite and isn't have to rebroadcast the data over wifi.
- Nightrider23Oct 08, 2021Guide
plemans wrote:Something to keep in mind with the MK60 set. Its a dual band set and doesn't have the dedicated backhaul the triband setups have.
So if a device is connecting through the satellite, its going to take a roughly 50% speed hit because it doesn't have that dedicated backhaul (unless you hardwire in the satellites for a wired backhaul).
That happens because the satellite has to use the same chip to go router<---->satellite and then satellite<---->devices. And they can't do it at the same time.
From the sound of it you have a 200mbps plan?
and you're going to get some speed loss because of distance/obstructions with the satellite.
so hitting 90 mbps over the satellite on wireless is pretty reasonable if you're starting from a 200mbps plan.
Wired you should be faster speeds because the satellite is only going router-----satellite and isn't have to rebroadcast the data over wifi.
That is good to know about the backhaul. Would the Orbit have backhaul? And would you think it would have better WiFi range? Or maybe I need to get a couple more satellites? I only have 1 satellite.
You're correctly I have a 200Mbps plan which is the fastest they have in the area.
I will move my router and then plug the Xbox into the satellite and see if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
- plemansOct 08, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Its not about switching between the orbi/MK series. Its about what system you get. The tribands are going to be faster because of their dedicated backhaul between router/satellites.
the MK60 series is a base model MK series while the MK80 is the upgraded triband version.
Versus orbi has single and dual band systems as well.
Nothing wrong with the system, its just something to keep in mind. and 90mbps should be more than enough for gaming/streaming 4k.
- Nightrider23Oct 08, 2021Guide
plemans wrote:Its not about switching between the orbi/MK series. Its about what system you get. The tribands are going to be faster because of their dedicated backhaul between router/satellites.
the MK60 series is a base model MK series while the MK80 is the upgraded triband version.
Versus orbi has single and dual band systems as well.
Nothing wrong with the system, its just something to keep in mind. and 90mbps should be more than enough for gaming/streaming 4k.
Got it and cool I'll see how it goes with the 90Mbps download speed when streaming and gaming!
So could I add one of those triband satellites to the my currrent setup just out of curiousity? Compatible with the MR60 router?
Having to move my router is putting it in a weird location with cables running across the room, but at this point I'll keep the horrible looking cables running across the room in order to keep the stable download speed. But if I get a better satellite maybe I can move the router back to where it was?
- plemansOct 08, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Got it and cool I'll see how it goes with the 90Mbps download speed when streaming and gaming! ---Might be faster if hardwired into the satellite. It doesn't take the speed hit if hardwired in.
So could I add one of those triband satellites to the my currrent setup just out of curiousity? Compatible with the MR60 router? ----No. the router has to have the dedicated backhaul as well. you can add a ms60 to the MR80 but not reverse.
Having to move my router is putting it in a weird location with cables running across the room, but at this point I'll keep the horrible looking cables running across the room in order to keep the stable download speed. But if I get a better satellite maybe I can move the router back to where it was?----possible. Or moving the modem with the router. I've swapped my primary router/modem's location around a few times to try to optimize.
- Nightrider23Oct 14, 2021Guide
plemans wrote:Its not about switching between the orbi/MK series. Its about what system you get. The tribands are going to be faster because of their dedicated backhaul between router/satellites.
the MK60 series is a base model MK series while the MK80 is the upgraded triband version.
Versus orbi has single and dual band systems as well.
Nothing wrong with the system, its just something to keep in mind. and 90mbps should be more than enough for gaming/streaming 4k.
Well I decided to upgrade to the MK83 Tri-band because I need the wi-if range to be stronger. I found a used one for half the price, and should get here next week.
I believe you said I could use my current satellite with the MK83? I'll try it first without it and if I'm good to go I'll just sale the MK60 set. Appreciate the help. Had I known there was an MK83 option I would of bought that one in the first place. Thanks!