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TheRealOC
Oct 17, 2020Aspirant
Netgear XR500 Unnamed devices poping up
Apologies for the repeat of an earlier post, but I'm still having the same problems with my XR500. I hadn't checked in on routerlogin.net dashboard for a few months, and when I checked the Devic...
- Oct 17, 2020
There are no secrets on a MAC address...
The ones with an OUI starting with 02:xx:xx (like any x2:.., x6:... xA:..., or xE:... are local managed MAC, not assigned to a vendor, freely usable, just unique on a LAN, used by VMs, wireless access points offering multiple SSIDs/VLANs. Look there -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address#Universal_vs._local
For the other random ones, say thank you generation tin hat, say thank you Apple (-> Use private Wi-Fi addresses in iOS 14, iPadOS 14, and watchOS 7 [with complete ridiculous enforced defaults!]), say thank you Android (-> Privacy: MAC Randomization [with smart defaults of course]).
Needless to say - there is no reason to randomize MAC addresses on a home, private, or business network. A correct hardware MAC key for access control, base line security, .... So disable this **** on the network connection settings (by each SSID).
So we can blame Netgear for many things - regardlss on how many times you factory reset your router. Can't see a Netgear problem here...
PS. For those hyping Apple for a "great" privacy innovation - Android has this feature since Android 8.0 Oreo (API 26, August 2017) - and it never caused (m)any issues.
TheRealOC
Oct 17, 2020Aspirant
Thanks schumaku
PMing you the MAC addresses now; there are two iPhones running IOS 14 on the network.
schumaku
Oct 17, 2020Guru - Experienced User
There are no secrets on a MAC address...
The ones with an OUI starting with 02:xx:xx (like any x2:.., x6:... xA:..., or xE:... are local managed MAC, not assigned to a vendor, freely usable, just unique on a LAN, used by VMs, wireless access points offering multiple SSIDs/VLANs. Look there -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address#Universal_vs._local
For the other random ones, say thank you generation tin hat, say thank you Apple (-> Use private Wi-Fi addresses in iOS 14, iPadOS 14, and watchOS 7 [with complete ridiculous enforced defaults!]), say thank you Android (-> Privacy: MAC Randomization [with smart defaults of course]).
Needless to say - there is no reason to randomize MAC addresses on a home, private, or business network. A correct hardware MAC key for access control, base line security, .... So disable this **** on the network connection settings (by each SSID).
So we can blame Netgear for many things - regardlss on how many times you factory reset your router. Can't see a Netgear problem here...
PS. For those hyping Apple for a "great" privacy innovation - Android has this feature since Android 8.0 Oreo (API 26, August 2017) - and it never caused (m)any issues.
- TheRealOCOct 17, 2020Aspirant
Apologies for the stupid question, but do I disable this **** on network connecting settings in the router's dashboard, or in each individual device?
- schumakuOct 17, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Hey, no problem! Perfectly understand the confusion caused by this "feature" - and even more the real issues araising where MAC based ACLs are in the game...
- schumakuOct 17, 2020Guru - Experienced User
TheRealOC wrote:... do I disable this **** on network connecting settings in the router's dashboard, or in each individual device?
On each device, and for each SSID/Network connection configured for your home or business networks.
- TheRealOCOct 17, 2020Aspirant
Is there any way to change the Network Map in Device Manager to a list layout? (The map is getting a bit unmanageable at this point...)