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droesw
Nov 12, 2019Guide
QoS not working properly because of docsis 3.1?
I am currently on my third XR500 in the past year. The first one I have I returned it because of a issue that I wasn't originally informed was just a firmware issue, but everything else worked great ...
FURRYe38
Nov 14, 2019Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of both ISP modems used with the NG router?
What is your ISP speeds UP and Down? 145-150?
DOCSIS is mainly seen and used with ISP speeds higher than 600Mbps, mainly ISPs that required a DOCSIS 3.1 cable modem for ther 1Gb speeds services. Also channelization and bonding of channels is a factor as well. 1Gb needs 32x8 channels. If your speeds is 145-150, then channels maybe 16x4. If your ISP speeds are well under 900Mbps then 3.1 isn't a factor here.
Did the ISP ensure the signal and line quality up to the modem is good?
Be sure there are not coax cable line splitters in beteen the ISP servce box and the modem?
What are you speeds if you disable QoS all together as a test.
Check speeds with a wired PC connected directly to the modem first. Then test with the XR in the middle.
droesw
Nov 14, 2019Guide
I'm not seeing an Mfr, but the model number on the 3.1 modem is Ubee E31U2V1, and the 3.0 modem is technicolor dpc3216.
My isp speeds are about 220/11, so with 70% sliders I should be getting around 150mbps when Qos is on, but I only get about 100-110 now when I enable it.
The modem is definitely labeled as a docis 3.1 and it's stated to have 32x8 channels, but are you saying 3.1 won't even be active since my speeds aren't near a gib, or what exactly?
yes i've asked them to test connection multiple times and they always say there are no issues. And when I do my own tests I very rarely get any sort of packet loss.
I think there was some sort of splitter in the isp line, because I think there were 5 outputs on the splitter to go into each room of my house that has a coax plug, but the technician said they only have it set to give a signal through 1 of the 5 outputs at a time anyway to prevent any signal loss.
When I disable QoS completely I usually get about 220/11, and that's what it should be. But when I enable QoS is when the speeds never are near what I have them set to with the sliders.
I tested wired to computer and directly to modem and got nearly the same speeds still as what I was getting before.
- FURRYe38Nov 14, 2019Guru - Experienced User
When the sliders are enabled with QoS, depending on where the sliders are, speeds will be reduced. This the sliders doing there job in limiting some of the bandwidth thruput for devices. If you set the sliders to 99% the speed should increase. Also how do you have the priority setting set for? Always or Only when detecting high priority traffic?
One thing about the sliders, you don't have to have them at 70%. You can move them up or down. This depends on what your actually doing. If your gaming and also sharing bandwidth with other users or there streaming, then 70% should be good to allow good sharing of the bandwidth for all devices. However if your say up at night or late night gaming or streaming and nobody else is using bandwidth, then you could keep the sliders at 99%. There is no reason why to limit bandwidth if your the only one gaming or streaming. Something to consider.
Look at the channels being used by your current modem if you log in to the modems web page. Look for it's connection to the ISP service. It will show LOCKED channels being used. 1 thru 32 for the down and 1 thru 8 for the UP. Depending upon what your ISP service required from them, the modem may not be used all channels. For my ISP, my modems is using all 32 channels for the down however only 4 for the UP. My ISP speed service is 200/10. I presume you may see the same with your service. 3.1 is just a version of modem specs. Yes, mostly needed for 1Gb ISP services.
- Netduma-FraserNov 14, 2019NetDuma Partner
Could you disable Traffic Prioritization please, it may be prioritizing something else and superceding your QoS settings and then try the test please? Also do you have goodput enabled?
- droeswNov 14, 2019GuideBut won’t disabling that just be like another way of disabling QoS altogether, cause if it’s not gonna pick up any high priority traffic it wouldn’t use QoS which is what causes the issue. When QoS is active.