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DirtySZN
Jun 21, 2020Aspirant
Still lagging while gaming with ethernet connection
So I currently am having severe lag issues while gaming. I am hardwired meaning this - There is a main xfinity gateway(modem/router combo) in one room in my house. That gateway is the main one and...
Netduma-Fraser
Jun 23, 2020NetDuma Partner
Very weird setup, you mentioned sometimes it's good and sometimes it isn't - does that correspond to when your mother is using the other gateway by chance? E.g. if she isn't on the internet that day or is out does it play without lag?
SeannnyG
Oct 27, 2020Aspirant
My ISP is Cox internet. They always say everything is good on their end but yet I lag almost daily playing video games. If i connect only to the modem I get no internet. Why does this happen all the time? I just bought both Modem and Router.
- Netduma-FraserOct 27, 2020NetDuma PartnerWhat is your average ping as shown by the Geo-Filter and what is the ping shown by the game? Are you using QoS?
- SeannnyGOct 27, 2020Aspirant
I don't know how to find the ping on the geo-filter. A speedtest says I have 7ms ping, in game I usually have 17-25ms ping until i start lagging then it never lowers under 50ms but most times is 150+. I have tried with QoS on and off and get the same results.
- Netduma-FraserOct 28, 2020NetDuma Partner
Have you added your device to the Geo-Filter? If not you will need to do that so you can force the closest/lowest ping servers. Then Auto Ping will be enabled so that when you're in a game it will appear in the bottom right corner of the page. What does that show and does that spike? Also there isn't really an on/off state for QoS, what settings did you use specifically?
- JustCheckingInOct 28, 2020Initiate
I would download "pingplotter". You are indicating that no matter what your setup you have low "ping" to something (maybe the game server is telling you that?). But Ping is a small piece of a connection. I mention that because you also say you have a lot of packet loss, to the point you cant play at all sometimes.
1. Disconnect YOUR modem. Just because it kind of works doesnt mean it works.
2. Reset your whole system; Unplug your moms gateway and let it sit for a minute or so, and plug it back in, WITHOUT your modem connected or on.
3. Connect to your moms gateway with wifi or wired if possible (it doesnt really matter) and use ping plotter (free version is fine) to see where you are losing packets on your path to the game server (or any server - 8.8.8.8 is google, and easy to remember). You MIGHT see packet loss at one node and none at the next; that is a frequency cap issue (some nodes will only resond to requests X times a second before they stop to ward off attacks, and then just pass on the packet). What you are looking for is a packet loss that gets all the way to the end. If its beyond the first two jumps, it is the ISP dropping packets. Note where it starts and contact the ISP with that address. They might have broken hardware. If thats the case you can ack for a rerout and they might know what you are talking about.
If it shows packet loss between your modem and ISP (first jump or so), it could be the ISP OR modem. Check your modem settings at 192.168.100.1 in your browser (your browser might warn its not a secure connection, it doesnt matter). You should be able to look up the default password online: log in and check "connection". "Downstream" connection dBmV should be between 10 and -10 (0 is ideal, but if its all 0, its an error). This indicates how much "noise" is comin to you, and the power level is requested by the ISP. If its betyond those values, contact your ISP. If there is a lot of "uncorrected" it indicates a problem with how you are getting packets, and that is also an ISP problem.
Upstream should be between 35 (iirc) and 50 dBmV, where 50 (and 50+, some modems max out at 50) would indicate a problem with the noise upstream. What is happening is that your modem will try and use as little power as possible to talk to the ISP, and when it cant, it raises the power, like shouting into your phone when its windy. At some point it will run out of power. Anything above 45 on the ISP's end will usually make them curious and trigger some steps to check it. BUT the ISP usually wont care or notice if you dont bring it up to them.
In that case, before you go wait on hold to talk to your ISP, first check all your connections. If you are able replace any crimp or screw coaxial connectors with compression fitting (I bought a kit and it was worth it just to have proper length cables) and replace any splitters between your "drop (where the line comes in)" and your modem with high quality splitters. Finally, you can run a new cable to your modem through a doorway adhoc, and test if it is a degraded cable. All-in that check cost me like $50: Its NOT your job to check, so if you dont have the desire to buy and deal with it, make the ISP do it.
If that fails to resolve your problem, contact your ISP and explain the trouble shooting steps you have taken, and the data you have.
It is not unlikely that having two modems is the problem; they are both trying to talk at teh same time as the same account. There is a reason they said it wasnt approved. So, that is why I say remove the "unknown" device and make sure its not your ISP.
If it all looks good, typically you can change out your modem online by selecting a new modem. Ask you mom when you can test YOUR setup (maybe a weekend) and disconnect her gateway, and connect your modem and router. Go through the same steps. If there is no issue then, its probably the two modems. If thats the case ask the ISP how you can resolve it. Keep escalating to a supervisor until they resolve it or are clear why they cannot.