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Ukiechi
Sep 08, 2020Aspirant
Wireless speeds are atrocious (XR300 Nighthawk)
Hi everyone! Hope this finds you well. I have a Nighthawk XR300 that is hooked up to our fiber internet service. I replaced our old Apple Airport Extreme a few months ago (woohoo!). I have 2 devi...
Ukiechi
Dec 01, 2020Aspirant
Hi!
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Access Point mode make my Nighthawk an extender? The modem I have it connected to isn't a router on its own so would I even be getting any connection connecting to it wirelessly in AP mode?
Let me know! If I'm mistaken or misunderstood, I'm happy to try it out tonight once my partner and I are off work.
plemans
Dec 01, 2020Guru - Experienced User
What modem do you have?
- UkiechiDec 01, 2020Aspirant
When I first started experiencing these issues, I had Comcast Xfinitiy service with 650 mbps using this router and a Cisco DPC3008 modem.
Now I have RCN Fiber Internet Service (1Gbps) using their proprietary modem as they told me there is no modem available that supports their new fiber internet.
Either way, across both services/equipment, I have had the same speeds/issues with my wireless connection. When I switched to fiber, my wired speeds definitely increased (especially my upload speeds), but the wireless has remained the same less than 10mbps from my living room 20 feet away.
- plemansDec 01, 2020Guru - Experienced User
What proprietary modem is it?
If it is a gateway/router then putting the XR300 in ap mode is a valid test. Reason why is ap mode disables several features that could potentially be slowing it down.
Always worth a shot.
- UkiechiDec 01, 2020AspirantTo be honest, I can seem to see any sort of marker or indicator on it. I’m attaching a photo of what it looks like. White box on the left is where the fiber cable comes through from outside and black is the modem.
I set my router into AP mode and two things. One, I’ve never had a faster wired connection to my router from my PC. We’re now around 950 mbps upload and download. Two, nothing works at all via Wifi. I can’t even get back into Duma via routerlogin.net or router login.com .
All my devices see my router and I can connect to it but there is no internet connection.
How do I undo this? - UkiechiDec 01, 2020Aspirant
Hello again!
So, I went ahead and factory reset my router. I couldn't get any internet connetion via Wifi on any device in AP mode. I also couldnt access any router settings or duma again.
To recap, my wired internet speeds in AP mode shot up to: ~900mbps download/upload (highest I've ever seen them)
Now after a factory reset, my wired internet speeds on my PC are: ~775mbps download/850mbps upload.
My iphone right next to the router via wifi, via speedtest iOS app: ~280mbps download/260 mbps upload
My iphone in the living room: ~150 mbps download/80mbps upload. (Even with the dropoff, this is still the highest I've ever seen it but I can update tomorrow to see if it has remained that way).
Again, my living room is 20 feet from my router. I'm in a 800 sq foot apartment and I never had this tremendous of a drop off in my speeds using my old Apple Airport Extreme before purchasing this Nighthawk which almost always delivered the speeds I paid for (aside from this fiber which I never used it with).
Any ideas on next steps?
Thank you!
- Netduma-FraserDec 03, 2020NetDuma PartnerI would recommend upgrading to the same version using TFTP (this will bypass any issues in the boot process) and then do a factory reset for the freshest install possible and see if that helps: https://kb.netgear.com/000059634/How-to-upload-firmware-to-a-NETGEAR-router-using-Windows-TFTP
- UkiechiDec 09, 2020Aspirant
We're back to normal I believe. That being said, it's the same issue. Day 1 of rebooting from scratch and setting up again was a bit faster via Wifi but there was still noticeable drop off by the time I left the room. And by today, we're back at the same low numbers.
Wired Speeds: ~910mbps download/upload.
Wireless next to router (2Ghz): 30mbps download/ 50 mbps upload
Wireless next to router (5Ghz): 300mbps download/upload
Wireless in living room (20 feet away) (2Ghz): 9mbps download/upload
Wireless in living room (5Ghz): 50mbps download/upload
- Netduma-FraserDec 10, 2020NetDuma PartnerSorry to hear that Ukiechi is that after doing the TFTP install followed by a reset?
- UkiechiJan 15, 2021Aspirant
Hi!
Apologies for the delay. I've just returned home after the holidays! No worries at all!
Unfortunately, yes, that is after a TFTP install & reset.
- Netduma-FraserJan 15, 2021NetDuma PartnerOnce you've done a reset are you changing any settings at all after the initial high speed results?
- UkiechiJan 15, 2021Aspirant
Anti-bufferbloat is set to "never"
QOS has all bandwidth allocation the same among all devices.
Haven't updated anything since the reset though.
I've been online the past 3 days and can't even consistently stay connected to a Microsoft Teams or Zoom Video chat with my laptop on the 5G network 2 feet from the router.
- Netduma-FraserJan 16, 2021NetDuma PartnerTake the MAC address of the Airport and apply that to the XR300 in Internet Settings, then reboot the router, are speeds more consistent then?
- UkiechiJan 16, 2021Aspirant
Unfortunately, I sold off my Airport when I got my Nighthawk a little over a year ago. I'm not sure I can obtain what the MAC address was for it.
- Netduma-FraserJan 16, 2021NetDuma PartnerI'd suggest calling the ISP and see if they can allow the MAC of the XR, it might be they're still expecting the Airport to be connected.
- UkiechiJan 17, 2021Aspirant
Hello!
Would this actually be an issue if the ISP I'm currently on has never been hooked up to any router other than this Nighthawk?
I used to have Comcast but switched to RCN in Chicago like 4 months ago. Same issue across both ISPs. - Netduma-LiamJan 18, 2021NetDuma Partner
That's true, however I think it's still worth doing just so we can rule that possibility out!
- UkiechiJan 18, 2021Aspirant
Hello!
Called RCN - they're pretty shocked the speeds are this slow.
I tried asking them about the MAC address and said they don't ever need it since they installed the modem in my house to get the fiber network. So they have the MAC address of that modem. Everything looks good on their end after taking a look. They offered to send someone out to take a look at my router but I held off for now.
And again, I'm getting the right speeds wired. Just not wireless. I'm getting slower wifi speeds than I did with my Apple Airport Extreme with Comcast & now the same thing with RCN.
Sorry to keep asking, any ideas? I don't want to give up on this router after having spent the money on it yet :(
- plemansJan 18, 2021Guru - Experienced User
If its only a couple months old, I'd open a support case with netgear if its still within warranty.
click on "mynetgear" at the top. register an account and the device. From there you can start support/rma process.
- UkiechiJan 19, 2021Aspirant
Unfortunately, any support expired back in November.
Rather than pay for the support, I think I'm just going to move on from this router entirely. It's been a sore disappointment.
Thank you for your help and taking the time though, I greatly appreciate it!
- Netduma-FraserJan 19, 2021NetDuma PartnerDo you have any sort of spare router or managed switch you could put in front of the XR and see if you get better speeds through the XR then?
- UkiechiJan 24, 2021Aspirant
Hello!
Unfortunately, I made the decision to upgrade to an asus router and without any sort of tinkering, I'm already seeing the speeds I needed. I really appreciate your help though, unfortunately it just wasn't the router for me.thanks again for taking the time.
- Netduma-LiamJan 25, 2021NetDuma Partner
No problem at all, thank you for your time and perserverence throughout troubleshooting.