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Jonathan_canada's avatar
Apr 11, 2019

XR500 - Security concerns and lack of r-apps

Good day all, 

 

How is it that I spend a fair amount of money for a top of the line router and it looks to me as if i'm spending money to be a beta tester? I don't mind the DumaOS interface but there is no r-apps store available ? The apps installed are common 50$ trendnet router capabilities and i'm far from impressed. 

 

Also, I opened a ticket with support (which was closed before resolution) because the latest firmware (which i'll assume and hope contains all the latest security patches) is not letting all of my 60-80 devices connect to it. I've got a lot of devices and IOT and that's why I wanted to get a router with a lot of processing power. And no VLAN support?  I can't do IOT isolation with a guest network setting guys....

 

So now i'm running the XR500 on the second to last firmware which at least lets me connect all devices but at what security cost ? 

 

I want to believe that good things are coming for this router and fast, but do you know how much this router costs in Canada? 380$CAD +tax

 

Jonathan

10 Replies

  • FURRYe38's avatar
    FURRYe38
    Guru - Experienced User

    You can review the Release Notes for each FW version to see whats included here:

    https://www.netgear.com/support/product/XR500.aspx#download

     

    Did you perform a factory reset and setup from scratch after applying v40 update? 

     

    The XR500 is not the top of the line anymore, the XR700 is. The XR series is mainly designed for gaminers who do alot of gaming. Not alot of gamers are using VLANs. Hybrid VPN was added on v40 FW. 

     

    Possible having 80 devices all connected to one router maybe a bit over loading. You may need a different router for device isolation for Guest Network. Again not a lot of call for IoT isolation with home class gaming router. 

    • Jonathan_canada's avatar
      Jonathan_canada
      Aspirant

      Actually I never did so many factory resets on a netgear router lol. I did a few after playing with the settings, then the firmware upgrade, then again after playing with the settings. The latest firmware doesn't let all devices connect, I would get at most 4-5 connected. 

       

      The reason I was mentionning Guest network for IOT isolation is because it's the closest thing there is to a VLAN on that router. The only reason why I got this router is because of processing power and ram. 

       

      20-25 of the devices connected to the router are IOT, it's not like they're taking a lot of the bandwith...

       

      But that's besides the point, the second to last firmware accomodates all devices connected and does it well, I just don't like the fact that I can't use the latest one? 

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru - Experienced User

        I would try a factory reset if you have v40 loaded and see if the devices will all connect. Users have been reporting problems with v40 however. 

         

        Over all, you may have not the right router for your needs. You may want to look into the R series or something more tuned to business if your environment is more business releated. 

  • schumaku's avatar
    schumaku
    Guru - Experienced User

    Jonathan_canada wrote:

    I don't mind the DumaOS interface but there is no r-apps store available ?


    "The features on DumaOS (such as the Geo-Filter) are running as R-apps as a proof of concept. We'll let everyone know when more R-apps are available :) " Source: Netduma_Jack on Twitter https://twitter.com/NETDUMA/status/1008781390693978112

     


    Jonathan_canada wrote:

    And no VLAN support?  I can't do IOT isolation with a guest network setting guys....


    Virtually all consumer device makers don't consider VLAN support for consumer network devices, for gaming routers, ... you invested in a wrong device class if you expected VLANs, flexible LAN and WLAN segregation, ... and much more.

     

    Even the SOHO/Small Business oriented Orbi Pro WiFi for Small Business Netger does not offer VLAN support, Netgear does insist the L2/3 isolation is sufficient and can be enhanced in the future.