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donawalt
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Feb 27, 2022
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How to see all devices - probably not possible

Just to confirm, from reading in this forum, it appears there is no way to see all devices the Orbi has issued an IP address to in the app (or the web interface), as "Attached devices" only shows active devices. So say, if a TV with internet connection is turned off, after a little while it disappears from the list and if any info is needed about it, I have to power on the TV to get it to show in the Attached Devices list. So is it true there is no way to see all devices that have received a non-expired IP address from the DHCP server? Thanks!

  • This is correct.  "Attached" means exactly that: currently connected to the Orbi.  The Orbi does remember devices (until it is Factory Reset which wipes out all user information).  When my relatives visit from out of state, the minute they walk in the door their cell phones connect to my WiFi because they are not "new".  The Orbi has seen them before.  They probably will get different IP addresses because I did not bother to assign specific IPs to them.

     

    On the Orbi web interface, Advanced Tab, Access Control page there is a table of Allowed Devices which are not currently connected.  Those are the devices which were once connected, but no longer are.  This may contain the information you want.

    For a short period, those devices appeared in the Orbi app, but recent versions of the app do not display them.  (One day I opened the app and saw that I had 127 devices and said, "WHAT????"

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  • This is correct.  "Attached" means exactly that: currently connected to the Orbi.  The Orbi does remember devices (until it is Factory Reset which wipes out all user information).  When my relatives visit from out of state, the minute they walk in the door their cell phones connect to my WiFi because they are not "new".  The Orbi has seen them before.  They probably will get different IP addresses because I did not bother to assign specific IPs to them.

     

    On the Orbi web interface, Advanced Tab, Access Control page there is a table of Allowed Devices which are not currently connected.  Those are the devices which were once connected, but no longer are.  This may contain the information you want.

    For a short period, those devices appeared in the Orbi app, but recent versions of the app do not display them.  (One day I opened the app and saw that I had 127 devices and said, "WHAT????"

    • donawalt's avatar
      donawalt
      Mentor

      Thanks. The Access Control List/not currently on the entwork is what I was interested in. It raises 2 questions for me though:

       

      (1) It's interesting that I cannot make changes to this list without turning Access Control on. Is there any penalty, performance or otherwise, to do this? I have never turned on Access Control before.

      (2) I have one entry, that appears to be an Apple TV device, that will let me modify its name but it won't let me delete it. It refreshes after I "Remove", but it's still there. Have you seen this, and/or how can I remove this entry?

       

      Thanks!

      • CrimpOn's avatar
        CrimpOn
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        donawalt wrote:

        (1) It's interesting that I cannot make changes to this list without turning Access Control on. Is there any penalty, performance or otherwise, to do this? I have never turned on Access Control before.


        I agree that being required to enable Access Control is a strange requirement for modifying tables.  This may be a consequence of the concept of "Allowed" vs. "Blocked".  Those terms have no meaning except in the context of Access Control.  Aside from some experiments, I have never enabled Access Control. (The experiments were because people posted problems as a result of using Access Control.)  With my 20+ character WiFi password, I see no benefit and a lot of bother.

         


        donawalt wrote:

        (2) I have one entry, that appears to be an Apple TV device, that will let me modify its name but it won't let me delete it. It refreshes after I "Remove", but it's still there. Have you seen this, and/or how can I remove this entry?


        If a device is currently connected, then by definitiion it cannot be removed. Aside from that, "beats me."