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iOS 14 Private Network Address makes my iPad loose connectivity..
I recently upgraded to iOS 14 & I'm noticing that the Orbi is not playing nice with the Private Internet Address feature. I keep loosing connectivity even though it shows that the wifi is connected. ...
computersteve wrote:
The Orbi firmware needs to be addressed with an update to fix this incompatibility.
Nothing to fix* on the wireless infrastructure if devices start to change thier MAC addresses randomly for whatever tin hat ideas. The DHCP IP pool here and on venues get flooded when my engineers and other users get started testing Apps on iOS 14 Beta.
*Except of one: I'm voting for the proposal to modify the DHCP server and automated switch ACL behaviour: Only devices with correct registered MAC OUI must be able to get DHCP addresses and handle traffic over a L2 network. Only devices strictly following IEEE standards and RFCs - this means there is no way to abuse free or OUIs assigned to other vendors OUI as registered - are allowed to use a network. Radomized MAC and OUI will be banned. Just like random hacked ESN, IMEI, SIM, MSN, ... on mobile networks.
If Apple (and Google's Android) manages to _correctly_ identify a network built from different wireless access points and Mesh systems as a single network (typical on many consumer homes, small businesses, ...) then we can discuss radomized MAC - only the non-OUI part - again. Until then this "feature" is a breach of IEEE and RFCs and must be banned.
I'm wondering if this is related to my issue. If not, then can someone re-direct me to the right place or solution?
I'd like to understand why is it that in a WiFi system that has 'access control' turned on to' block all new devices from connecting', any apple device can connect without authorization.
Interestingly... yesterday I ttried to disallow '(block)' one of these, and the router responded that I 'cannot block using the same device I'm logged in with' - an android! Yet the device I was blocking was an iPhone identified by MAC association to vendor. But that aside, I cant seem to block any Apple devices using access control.
sunnyorlando wrote:I'd like to understand why is it that in a WiFi system that has 'access control' turned on to' block all new devices from connecting', any apple device can connect without authorization.
Definitively something very wrong or not working as expected if this is true. What magic WiFi system model and firmware are we facing here?
sunnyorlando wrote:Interestingly... yesterday I ttried to disallow '(block)' one of these, and the router responded that I 'cannot block using the same device I'm logged in with' - an android! Yet the device I was blocking was an iPhone identified by MAC association to vendor.
Netgear (and other WiFi device makers!) have either a white list or a black list implemented. If a WiFi system is configured to require a management action on the first connection - allowing a device - it's in white list mode.
Thus you can't block any individual device (resp. whatever MAC address was used) into a black list.
sunnyorlando wrote:But that aside, I cant seem to block any Apple devices using access control.
Not related to be an Apple device, as explained above. There should be a way to remove it from the white list of allowed devices instead.
The subject "iOS 14 Private Network Address makes my iPad loose connectivity" isn't related here - the named iOS 14 system does come with a random MAC address, not allowed in the white list, thus blocked access. Perfectly correct.
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Thanks.. I posted here because I saw some similarities on th thread.
As to the 'magic. WiFi syste, its a WNDR4300 v2 on version V1.0.0.58, with aWN2000RPT v3 on the other side of the house.
But whats happening is exactly like that. And I agree that something is not right.