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Yishai27
Oct 10, 2023Aspirant
Unable to delete devices, Orbi RBR50
Its been about 2 years at least and I can't delete a device. I've looked and looked for a way to delete this and can't find a thing, which is why I'm here. Either I'm just blind as a bat or Netge...
- Oct 12, 2023
It's just my opinion, but I think what you want cannot be done. This device knows the WiFi password. My guess is that the WiFi handshake takes place at such a low level in the networking stack that the connection cannot be prevented. All the router an do is note, "If a Blocked device connects, I'm not going to pass any data to/from it."
Yishai27
Oct 11, 2023Aspirant
Thanks for the reply.
Yes I've tried this before but the issue is this device is showing up in the Duh because its connected box.
One of the reasons I have this device blocked is because I have no clue what it is. I have roughly 25 devices connected. It shows about 10 devices in the next box, Devices allowed but aren't connected.
The third box has 2 devices in there and both of those do not share the same mac address as the one I'm talking about in the 1st box.
I know you label that as the "Duh because its connected" but how/why can't I remove a connected device. Better yet why can't I move that device after I blocked it and I'm the system Admin.
So I guess now is I need to know if there is a way to move this "blocked" device into another box so I can delete it.
Thank you again for your help.
CrimpOn
Oct 11, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Once the device is no longer connected to the Orbi system, it can be deleted from the table of Blocked Devices that are not Connected. Thus, the task is to identify the device and remove it from the system.
One tool is to enter the MAC address into one of the web engines that track which MAC addresses are assigned to specific manufacturers, such as https://maclookup.app
If this turns up a "hit", then at least the general type of device might be known.
On the other hand, if it comes up "nobody", then this might be an iPhone, iPad, Android, or other device that has been set to generate a random MAC address. (Not something that would be expected for run-of-the-mill WiFi devices.)
Another tool is to identify all the device that this cannot be, because they appear on the list of Attached Devices with MAC addresses that do not match and we know what they are.
Another tactic might be to ask, "what is in the house that could be connected to the network and doesn't have internet, but we are not aware that it doesn't?" Maybe a DVD player that we haven't tried to use for months?
The one sure fire method to get rid of this device is more trouble than it is worth: change the WiFi password.
This means that you have to go to every WiFi device and reconfigure it to use the network. OMG. This could take hours!!! (In my case, I'd have to climb ladders to reach some devices to reset them!) This is why I have kept the same WiFi password for almost 20 years!
- Yishai27Oct 11, 2023Aspirant
Its a Samsung device. I did have a Bluray player crap out on me but its been turned off and for a very long time. I live in an apartment and I did set up my guest network so a neighbor could use for a few months.
I guess I'll just reset it back to factory and set up everything again. This is very frustrating. I'm retired from over 20 years in IT and not being able to remove a device from my personal network is mind boggling. I'm so glad AD, DHCP and DNS we're never set up like this.
I do appreciate you time/help. Thank you again.
- CrimpOnOct 11, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Might be less work to ask the neighbor to use his own WiFi? Or, change only the Guest WiFi password?
(The mysterious device does show as connected to the Guest WiFi, correct?)
- CrimpOnOct 11, 2023Guru - Experienced User
wait... wait.... if this device has been Blocked, then it should not have internet access. If it is a Samsung phone or tablet, surely the person using it would notice that it doesn't work???