Alternatives to orbi?? (considering replacing already)

Need to check to see if the new ONT has a built in router or not. If not, then you need to downgraded to the early version of V3 and use the telnet method to block NG updates. 

No, it just checks to see if the services has an update. Each time you log out of the web page or nagivate to some other place on the RBRs web page then go back to FW updates, and then check, the the RBR will attempt to query the NG service to see whats out there. If the upstream router is blocking correctly, the RBR will report "service not reachable". I've done this many times in testing myself. 

Firewall blocks definitely didnt work... orbi has forced updated to latest v4 again :(

No wonder so many people box these up and return them!

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FiiJaS wrote:
Hi guys.
Let's back to topic.
I've tested a couple of days the Linksys Velop.
Connection is stable, WiFi signal also stable.
I'm not noticed any dropping etc. So positive ...
Now the downsides... System/Functions are pretty bare-bones .... What I miss is fully support of VLAN . I have to use between ISP modem still ISP router or switch with VLAN. Support will nothing to promise...
After reading last couple of posts in this thread I decided to keep Velop.

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Question on the Linksys... does the little light on the top stay permenatly on when connected? or does it go off like the orbi? only ask as I have one of the satellites in a bedroom.

Can you turn off the 5ghz range so that it makes connecting 2.4ghz smart home devices easier to connect?

Can you disable firmware updates so we don't have the same issues like we do with netgear?

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stu3886 wrote:

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Question on the Linksys... does the little light on the top stay permenatly on when connected? or does it go off like the orbi? only ask as I have one of the satellites in a bedroom.

 

Can you turn off the 5ghz range so that it makes connecting 2.4ghz smart home devices easier to connect?

 

Can you disable firmware updates so we don't have the same issues like we do with netgear?

 

 

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Again.  linksys have bare-bone options.

- Light stays blue - there is no option to turn off. The blue light is not so ,,intense" Satellites are the same as parent unit. I mean You can choose which one wil be ,,parent" Satellites working in bridge mode. I can check tonight how bad is this led light... 

-there is no option to turn off the 5Ghz network.

- Yes. You can uncheck ,,install updates automatically"  Updates are not so offten at linksys ( it's also not so good) In one year time there was 3 updates ...

Not sure if the below is stil accurate but it looks like you can split the SSID's on the velop even if you cant turn off the 5ghz range?

Login to the linksys router IP... From there, go to Router Settings > Wifi Settings > "Separate Wifi Settings" > "Show more". Provide a name for the 2.4 GHz and another for the 5 GHz (such as "HomeWifi" and "HomeWifi-5G"). You will be warned about setting up different Wifi names. Click on "Use different names". The Velop will restart, and you will now have two SSIDs

You'll need to use to use the telnet method then. Seems like your ability to block using your host router isn't working. 

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stu3886 wrote:

Firewall blocks definitely didnt work... orbi has forced updated to latest v4 again :(

 

No wonder so many people box these up and return them!

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FURRYe38 wrote:

You'll need to use to use the telnet method then. Seems like your ability to block using your host router isn't working. 

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stu3886 wrote:

Firewall blocks definitely didnt work... orbi has forced updated to latest v4 again :(

 

No wonder so many people box these up and return them!

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can you recommend which Firmware is the best to downgrade to so that this can be done?

I think I saw a post you had the 8 series, if so, "last version of FW that has Telnet on the debug page is V3.2.11.2. All versions beyond that do not have telnet on the debug UI web page,"

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FURRYe38 wrote:

I think I saw a post you had the 8 series, if so, "last version of FW that has Telnet on the debug page is V3.2.11.2. All versions beyond that do not have telnet on the debug UI web page,"

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Downgraded to V3.2.11.2_1.2.13 and have telnet in to disable upgrade on the router. I cant work out how to do this for the satellites though? is it required? 

Will the satellites still upgrade themselves automatically even if the router is saying service unreachable? 

Good question. 

Looking at the users post regarding the telnet method, he seems to inidicate that both RBR and RBS needs that telnet config:

4. Enable Telnet option on both Router and the Satellite in their Debug.html page.
5. Telnet connect to both devices, and ran the following code to block. 

Seems that the RBS need this telnet config as well. 

so i ran all the below on the RBR and both RBS's and it still says status V4.6.3.16 for the satellites :(

the router is all good and says service unreachable, but very worried about the satellites auto upgrading.

nvram set auto_upgrade_enable=0
nvram set ver_check_https_svr1=http.fw.updates1.aaa.com
nvram set ver_check_ftp_svr1=updates1.aaa.com
nvram set ver_check_ftp_svr2=updates1.aaa.com
nvram set ver_check_ftp_svr3=updates1.aaa.com
nvram set lang_check_ftp_svr=updates1.aaa.com
nvram set install_fw_upgrade_latest=0
nvram set ver_check_enable=0
nvram set ver_check_ftp_password=aaa@aaa
nvram set control_cloud_backend_fw_url=https://http.fw.updates1.aaa.com
nvram set promotion_server=updates1.aaa.com
nvram commit

Ok, lets give it a day or so and check back and see if the RBS updates on there own. 

Maybe Xcelebric can comment on this RBS state? 

Back to the topic, looking at Costco, they have TP-Link Deco AX5700 and Linksys Velop AX4200 systems. Any experience, thoughts?

It would be recommended to visit those Mfrs forums and look to see what there users are experiencing with there products. I presume those users would have more information and experiences and post about it there. 

Remember this is a NG forum. :smileywink:

I would not recommend TP-Link anything. 

Reading https://www.reddit.com/r/LinksysVelop , second-guessing myself ...