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AX4200 Wired Backhaul Peculiarities
My issue does not concern performance, but instead management/administration of the routers/satellites. Background: I have used the Orbi ac3000 system (1 RBR50 + 1 RBS50) in a wired backhaul arrangeme...
Yes it's one of Orbi's "peculiarities" that I've learned to deal with and seems to be how NG has designed them.
The illustrations for the link is correct for connecting the RBS to the back of the RBR. The Internet port on the RBR is only used for it's main connection to the main host router in AP mode or an ISP modem when in router mode.
Ok, I understand, however that’s impractical too. I only have one cat 6 run to the location where the RBR is. I wouldn’t imagine most homes would have multiple runs to a single location. Bottom line, I can’t or won’t do that. If that’s the way Netgear intended the wired backhaul to be implemented, it is very limiting. So I guess if mine works the way it is, I will just have to live with the abnormal management/administration until something better comes along. That illustration you referred me to earlier is misleading as I don’t believe it indicated that the connection to the switch couldn’t be the Internet port.
Yes it's one of Orbi's "peculiarities" that I've learned to deal with and seems to be how NG has designed them.
The illustrations for the link is correct for connecting the RBS to the back of the RBR. The Internet port on the RBR is only used for it's main connection to the main host router in AP mode or an ISP modem when in router mode.
- Thanks for giving me the lightbulb moment. I still think the illustration should make it clearer that they are not talking about the Internet port.
So what if I put a new switch at the RBR end and plugged both the Internet port and an Ethernet port into that switch. Then the switch would have a 3rd cable back to the iSP modem. Yes, as long as you have swtich in between the RBR and RBS, This should work, Then connect this swtich back to the main switch or to the main host router.
Well, that didn't work. Next thing I might try is to establish a connection between the RBR and RBS via EOP. Not the best solution but I'm on a quest now. I will mark your response as the "Answer" since you put me ont the right track and at least identified where the problem is.
Hope you can get it working the way you need it.
- I installed an Ethernet-Over-Power (EOP) connection between the RBR and RBS and it fixed the issue. The satellite appears as a satellite both in the App and on the Website. The trade off is that for devices homed on the satellite, I am now limited by the speed/bandwidth that the EOP can provide.
Ok, sounds like thats a solution for you. Hope it works well for you.
I'd like to complete this thread with something that I hope will help anyone having problems with wired backhaul. I had a misunderstanding of how it worked and Netgear contributed to my misunderstandiong by not being specific enough. (By the way, my system is configured as an AP.)
I thought that if your Orbi Router was connected to your ISP modem via the Internet port and you connected a satellite anywhere on your wired network, that would constitute a wired backhaul. Well, yes and no. It creates a workable solution from a user perspective, but the satellite is not seen as a satellite to the Netgear App and therefore you won't be able to tell which devices home on the Orbi satellite(s).
What you have to do to make it work correctly is to take one of the ethernet ports on the Orbi Router and connect it DIRECTLY to your Orbi satellite. You can go through a switch, but it can't be one of your already existing switches on your network. It must be a standalone switch that serves only to connect the Orbi Router to the Satellite(s). This may seem simple, but (1.) I thought that one single connection from the Orbi Router Internet port would suffice and (2.) I further thought that the Satellite could be connected to your existing network via any switch on the network. By the way, you will find that if you do connect the Orbi Router to your network via the Internet port and one of the ethernet ports, you will form a loop and will have other issues.
I hope this helps as I've seen many people pose this issue.