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philoouu
Aug 21, 2020Luminary
AX6000/RBK852 Wired Backhaul mode - Guest Network - No internet when connected through the satellite
I just bought a AX6000/RBK852 (RBK850/RBS850) with the lattest firwmare V3.2.16.6. I have a lan cable connected between my main and the satellite (wired backhaul mode). I have a guest network too. W...
- Feb 03, 2021
I finally updated to v3.2.17.12.
After a reboot (exactly 2 reboot of the RBR as for some reason there was no internet connection during the first reboot and one reboot of the RBS), guest network is working correctly with the satellite in Wired Backhaul mode.
I did not need to do factory reset / reload my configuration.
Finally Netgear was able after 6 months to fix this basic function.
I wrote to the support desk to tell them the issue was solved.
FURRYe38 thanks for your help during these 6 months...
FURRYe38
Sep 03, 2020Guru - Experienced User
How are you configuring Access Controls?
philoouu
Sep 03, 2020Luminary
Yes I do.
But changing the IP range to 10.0.1.x without touching Access Control is enough to make it bug at my place.
- FURRYe38Sep 03, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Ok, well I just tried again with 192.168.85.1 and enabled Access Controls and set Allow All. My two devices were connected at the wired RBS and still got internet services.
I then turned OFF the RBS, reconfigured 10.0.1.1 on the RBR and rebooted it. Guest Network and access controls still enabled. Powered ON the RBS. I disconnected my two devies while I waited for the RBS to cone to ready. Re-connected the wireless devices. They both connected and got internet services. Speed test app and youtube app both work
192.168.2.x is seen for any guest network devices. My wired PC and RBS behind the RBR has a 10.0.1.x address. Both wireless devices reported as 5G Guest under connection type.
- philoouuSep 03, 2020Luminary
And you confirm you had wired backhaul for Satellite ? On the GUI you see wired for Satellite ?
This would mean my unit is defective ? Or I do something wrong ?
- FURRYe38Sep 03, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Yes, RBS is ethernet connected to a Gb switch then from there connected to the back of the RBR.
Same configuration and earlier today.
- philoouuSep 03, 2020Luminary
Thanks for doing so many test for me...
I will wait Support Team to come back to me.
- FURRYe38Sep 03, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Hope they can help you. Ask about an RMA.
- philoouuSep 06, 2020Luminary
I was looking at your signature. Looks like your firmware is 3.1.16.6, I guess you meant 3.2.16.6?
My firmware for both Routeur and Satellite is V3.2.16.6_1.4.4.
Not sure what this 1.4.4 means at the top of the GUI...
Trying to make sure we have the same firmware!
- FURRYe38Sep 06, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Yes, it's same FW. I tend to reference the last number in the main version V3.2.16.6_1.4.4 in my posts/sig. I don't know the meaning fo the _1.4.4 numbers. I presume these are some sub versioning that NG only knows about. The main number thats important is the one in bold for reference.
- philoouuSep 16, 2020Luminary
Thanks for your help for the last month! Looks like I will have to return my satellite and get a new one.
I need you help on something else; I want to reset the Satellite to factory reset before sending it back.
I pressed the reset button for 15 seconds then release.
But the satellite (RBS) will reboot and reconnect/resync automatically to my network and even if it says backhaul status poor or out of sync, I can connect to it by browser with my admin passowrd and it looks like working OK without using the sync buttons.
How can I get the satellite out of my network? By doing reset factory on the Router too (RBR)? At which moment do the RBR and RBS sync?
Thanks
- FURRYe38Sep 16, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Turn OFF the RBR/other RBS, then press the reset button on the one RBS your returning for 15 seconds then release. When the front LED starts to blink, power it off. Then turn on the RBR/other RBS.
- philoouuSep 16, 2020Luminary
Thanks. Let me try that later on. Once the steps you told me are finished, I will turn on the Satellite (RBS) again to make sure it does not sync automtically to my RBR and that it is completey out of my network for good.
- FURRYe38Sep 16, 2020Guru - Experienced User
No, no need to turn it ON after the RBS has been factory reset. Just put it off and get it ready for it's return.
- philoouuSep 16, 2020Luminary
How can I know it is out of my network for good? And that RBS will never connect to my RBR anymore.
From the RBR Gui it is impossile to get rid of the satellite...
- FURRYe38Sep 16, 2020Guru - Experienced User
If your sending it back for return, then you don't need to be concerned about the RBS as it don't be around to connect.
- philoouuSep 16, 2020LuminaryBut I was wondering how it works between RBR and RBS. Where is the security if RBS syncs automatically to RBR? When you buy a set RBR/RBS they connect by default?
- FURRYe38Sep 17, 2020Guru - Experienced User
No they don't.
- philoouuSep 17, 2020Luminary
Hello,
I reset factory the RBS as you said.
Then I turned on the RBR, then turned back on the reset factory RBS. The RBS did sync automatically to the RBR. Is the RBS in the config file so that the RBR will recognize it and sync aumatically? How can I get rid of him? By reset factory the RBR and start the config from scratch?
Thanks
- Dd852Sep 17, 2020LuminaryThe sync password survives the resets - I’ve seen this too. I’m not sure it matters much - the chance of your repaired unit ending up at a neighbors house is minimal! If you really want to zap it, turn off the satellite. In the advanced options on the web GUI there’s an option to change the sync settings. Do that while the bad satellite is off. Then you’ll have to resync your good satellite with the base. Then you’re clean. But as I say not really that necessary.
- philoouuSep 17, 2020Luminary
In wireless settings of the RBR I changed the backhaul password when the RBS (satellite) was turned off, following the reset factory. RBS still managed to sync after turning on and is part of my network. RBS is of course wireless backhaul. No idea how to get rid of it.
- FURRYe38Sep 17, 2020Guru - Experienced User
When you send it back to NG, the RBS will be fully cleared and probably go thru re-testing and evaluation. Just Turn OFF the RBR, Factory reset the RBS. Power it OFF and package it and ship it off. Turn ON the RBR and continue to use.
- philoouuSep 17, 2020Luminary
There could be an issue on the RBR too. Not sure what is going on here.
- philoouuSep 26, 2020Luminary
Netgear Support exchanged my satellite (RBS). It does not change anything to my issue.
I have no internet on the guest network when I connect throught the satellite. My devices are all properly connected to the satellite (i see that on both RBR and RBS gui) but I get the following message when browsing the web:
Safari could not open the page because the server stop responding or Safari can't open the page xxx.com because Safari can't establish a secure connection to the server xxx.com
I guess the last thing to do is to check another RBR...
- FURRYe38Sep 26, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I would do that too...
philoouu wrote:Netgear Support exchanged my satellite (RBS). It does not change anything to my issue.
I have no internet on the guest network when I connect throught the satellite. My devices are all properly connected to the satellite (i see that on both RBR and RBS gui) but I get the following message when browsing the web:
Safari could not open the page because the server stop responding or Safari can't open the page xxx.com because Safari can't establish a secure connection to the server xxx.com
I guess the last thing to do is to check another RBR...
- philoouuOct 09, 2020Luminary
I got the new RBR but no change to my issue.
When I connect wireless devices to the wired backhaul Satellite on the guest network, they will connect properly but internet will not work. Safari can't establish a secure connection to www.xxx.com
What is really weird is that after a factory reset of the RBR I am able to create a configuration where the guest network will work correctly with wired backhaul satellite. I am saved this config (config A). After modyfing the IP range, the problem will appear. If I go back to the orginaly IP range or put back the config A, it will not work anymore. This is extremely confusing. It looks like the Guest Network on the wired backhaul satellite is only working after a factory reset and no important modifications of the parameters.
What is you idea?
I will talk to the Support to ask them to put me on contact with an Engineer. They must investigate it more seriously at some point.
Is there an Netgear Engineer on this forum willing to give his opinion?
- FURRYe38Oct 10, 2020Guru - Experienced User
What is the initial IP address string your using that works, then what is the address string your changing to when it stop working?
- philoouuOct 11, 2020Luminary
Thanks for helping!
I changed from 192.168.1.1 (default set-up) to 10.0.1.1 as you can see in the picture.
Before changing I saved the working config. When I restore this working config, I still have the issue; it looks like something changes on which I have no control There is no way to have access to detailed logs so no idea what is going on.