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DudeDah
Jan 05, 2022Aspirant
Correct order of steps in replacing Centurylink C3000Z with Orbi RBK852 router
I'm sure this is a dumb question but I'm worried about screwing something up. My ISP's modem/router is a Zyxel c3000z. I have found by going into its configs via a web browser I can turn off the "wir...
- Jan 12, 2022
If it had been synced already, yes, just power it ON. I'd give it several minutes to connect and sync fully. I noticed with mine today, the RBS rebooted a 2nd time before it connected fully and the front LED turned OFF. 5-10 minutes the RBS should be connected. Check the RBRs Connected Devcies page to see it it connects. You can check the modems web page as well to see if it gets an IP address like the RBR. IT should.
FURRYe38
Jan 06, 2022Guru - Experienced User
DudeDah wrote:
First off thank you for your patience...
So I can log into and look at my modem configs and see all the deviecs that are connected to it and their IP addresses. Do I just pick two (one for RBR one for RBS) that aren't already being used? Yes. The modem may have already assigned something to them. You can use what the modem assigned or pick something thats not being used.
Also...again, total newbie to networking...I'm not exactly sure where to get the other values to fill in for the fields when choosing dynamic AP mode (IP/IP sub/gateway/Primary DNS/Secondary DNS). Is there are general location in my modem configs that I should look to get those values? If you choose Dynamic mode for AP mode on the RBR, you don't have to fill in anything. The RBR will get what it needs from the modems router.
DudeDah
Jan 06, 2022Aspirant
In the AP mode settings, when I choose "Get dynamically from existing router" AP mode is not working for me. I thought you meant that when setting up AP mode I should choose "Enable fixed IP settings on this device (not recommended)" and then enter an IP address not currently being used by anohter device on the network, but then the interface asks for those other values.
- FURRYe38Jan 06, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Ok, yes, then you would get those from the host router the RBR is connecting too. You'll need to review the host routers configuration.
Gateway Address is usually the IP address of the host router, 192.168.#.1.
Subnet Mask address is usually 255.255.255.0.
DNS can be the host routers IP address, ISP specific DNS addresses seen by the host router or any custom DNS like Googles, Cloudfare or quad 9.
- DudeDahJan 06, 2022Aspirant
Ok I'll give that a shot "after hours". I can see in my modem configs the IP address it has given the RBR in Router Mode, can I use that IP address for the RBR when I ATTEMPT AP Mode again or will there be a conflict?
- FURRYe38Jan 06, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Try it.
- DudeDahJan 12, 2022Aspirant
Tried it. Gave it the IP address that was assigned to it by my modem. Entered correct sub/gateway/DNS values. Orbi reboots and light turns pink then eventually turns off. I have a Google hub Max next to my desk and it keeps having and losing the internet connection. When I enter the RBR IP address into my browser (connected to to the RBR via wifi) to try and acces the RBR to admin it nothing happens.
- FURRYe38Jan 12, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Does trying orbilogin.com or .net access the RBR?
What is the IP address that was given to the RBR from the modem? 192.168.?.?
- DudeDahJan 12, 2022Aspirant
That URL just brings up a page that says I'm not connected to my OrbI's network.
I'm just so confused at this point...I get a little bit of understanding each time but this is just super frustrating. Modem gave the RBR .130 so I gave it that, then the modem assigned it .129 and now it so tried to connect via .129 but the modem had assigned that to a Sonos device...I obviously don't know what I'm doing.
- FURRYe38Jan 12, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Ok so we need to know the IP address number seen here for the RBR, 192.168.?.130
Wondering if this is a .1.130?
What IP address does a wired PC get when you have it connected to the RBR? IT should be possibly a 10.0.0.something...
- DudeDahJan 12, 2022Aspirant
When I started the process I noticed in my modem configs the RBR had been assigned 192.168.0.130 when the RBR was in Router mode. So when I tried to put the RBR in AP Mode I gave it that IP with the correct gateway/subnet/DNS values. After it rebooted and looked at the configs of my modem I am either seeing it as 192.168.0.129 or NOT AT ALL. Now I am seeing .129 being assigned to a SONOS device and .130 was being assigned to somethins with a different MAC address than the RBR.
I'll have to plug a laptop into the RBR and see what I get but the light switches on and off intermitantly from Pink to off and the Google Hub goes in and out of being connected and the only wifi network in the house that it could possibly connect to is the Orbi.
- FURRYe38Jan 12, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Ok, so the modem is running 192.168.0.something on it's LAN network which is fine since the Orbi runs 192.168.1.something on it's LAN side with in router mode. This avoids any conflict here and is good.
Trying to make this easy as possible for you. Remove any IP address configurations that you made for the RBR from the modem. Don't use DMZ or IP pass thru. Don't get a IP address configuration, just yet. If you can't seem to access the RBR in AP mode, factory reset it and get ot the home page. Then configure the RBR for AP mode and this time select Dymamic IP addressing on the RBR. Apply the change. The RBR should reboot here. If so, Power OFF the ISP modem for 1 minute then back ON. The front LED on the RBR should be PINK then hopefully turn BLUE or Turn OFF after the ISP modem comes back to ready...
You can check the ISP modems connected clients page to see what IP address was given to the RBR in AP mode. Use this IP address to access the RBRs web page.
- DudeDahJan 12, 2022Aspirant
OH.
EMM.
GEE!!!
I followed all of those steps exactly. Stayed pink for a WHILE but then checked the ISP modem configs and found the IP for the RBR. I used that IP and was able to log in. Clicked "advanced" then crossed my finger, toes, eyes...and clicked "router/AP mode" and...IT SAYS IT'S IN AP MODE!!! Can't believe it, FINALLY.
So now...I need to connect my Satellite. I have had it unplugged during this process and NORMALLY just plug it in and let it find the RBR. Is it that same process? Just plug it in and see what happens?
I CAN'T thank you enough for sticking with me on this. The easiest solution would have been for me to just use router mode, plug my various ethernet switches into the router and go BUT, I wanted to try and configure this the RIGHT way to get all my wired and wireless devices on the same network.
I think we're getting somewhere...
- FURRYe38Jan 12, 2022Guru - Experienced User
If it had been synced already, yes, just power it ON. I'd give it several minutes to connect and sync fully. I noticed with mine today, the RBS rebooted a 2nd time before it connected fully and the front LED turned OFF. 5-10 minutes the RBS should be connected. Check the RBRs Connected Devcies page to see it it connects. You can check the modems web page as well to see if it gets an IP address like the RBR. IT should.
- DudeDahJan 13, 2022Aspirant
It all appears to be working. THANK YOU for your pateince in helping me figure this out. It has be a HUGE learning experience and I now understand this all a LITTLE better.
- FURRYe38Jan 13, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Glad you got it working. Be sure to save off a back up configuration to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed.
https://kb.netgear.com/000062080/How-do-I-back-up-the-configuration-settings-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
Enjoy. 📡 - DudeDahJan 13, 2022Aspirant
Another excellent recommendation, thanks.
- FURRYe38Jan 13, 2022Guru - Experienced User
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