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wfletchb99
Feb 16, 2021Star
Double NAT on wired. Open NAT on wifi
I know the Double/Strict NAT general topic has been beaten to death, but I could not find a situation matching mine. Recently replaced my R7000 with this RBK752. No issues except for the one men...
- Feb 17, 2021
Xbox has always been problematic when it comes to NAT status. Disable all Instant ON features. This was one problem Xbox 1 had a few years ago. Not sure if it was ever addressed by MS.
2nd, do not do 30/30/30 resets on Orbi. 15 second button press is only needed on Orbi systems.
You shouldn't need any PF or Port Triggering configurations. You only need uPnP enabled and thats its. IF you have two game consoles, you can set NAT Filter to Open if you use both consoles online at the same time. I'd try setting a IP address reservation for your consoles ON the RBR router.
After making router changes and the RBR reboots. Press and hold the front power button on the xbox console until it shuts off. Then turn it back on.
FURRYe38
Feb 16, 2021Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
Is the modem in bridge mode or router mode?
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update?
- FURRYe38Feb 16, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Oops, I see the model # of the modem...
- wfletchb99Feb 17, 2021Star
The problem started while I had the previous firmware (3.2.16.22)...which was the firmware at purchase. I did not do a reset with that firmware version, but I did a regular reset with the new firmware before I posted my original question. After reading your response, I did a 30/30/30 reset, set up the router, and tried port forwarding and then port triggering again. So far, the problem seems to be the same. Immediately after the 30/30/30, it was actually worse as even wifi was showing as a Double NAT with port forwarding. However, after a full shutdown, remove power, and restart of the Xbox, at least the wifi is back to being open NAT.
I also got out my old Xbox One and tried it to see if the problem was related to my Xbox Series X. I put the Xbox One beside the RBR750 (rather than the satellite) and it is also showing double NAT even in wifi. However, I have not done any iterative testing of the Xbox One, so I don't want to draw any conclusions from this brief experiment. I did not attempt to connect the Xbox One to the router with an ethernet cable.
At the very least, it seems like my NAT status, as evaluated by the Xbox, is relatively "unstable." It seems like there is something in how the Xbox reads the status. After all of this resetting and then making changes, I would be tempted to just live with wifi if it was simply stable, but I fear that one day I'm going to get stuck with double NAT even in wifi and not be able to get it to open status.
Any further suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
- FURRYe38Feb 17, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Xbox has always been problematic when it comes to NAT status. Disable all Instant ON features. This was one problem Xbox 1 had a few years ago. Not sure if it was ever addressed by MS.
2nd, do not do 30/30/30 resets on Orbi. 15 second button press is only needed on Orbi systems.
You shouldn't need any PF or Port Triggering configurations. You only need uPnP enabled and thats its. IF you have two game consoles, you can set NAT Filter to Open if you use both consoles online at the same time. I'd try setting a IP address reservation for your consoles ON the RBR router.
After making router changes and the RBR reboots. Press and hold the front power button on the xbox console until it shuts off. Then turn it back on.