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CMcD2009
Aspirant
Sep 08, 2022

First Time Post for RBKE963B Owner - Inconsistent Issues 1x per Month Satellite Drops

Hello, first time on the community posting for some help.  I have the RBKE963B system and am using a single satellite in my setup. 


My details are:

Home 2-floors at 2900 sq ft.  Home is in rectangle form with the router on one far end of the home and the satellite is connected via wired backhaul over Cat5e. (Cable tested multiple times, backhaul shows "Good")  Only using router and satellite on the 2nd floor.  Router on one end of the second floor and satellite on the other far end of the home.

I am in a congested neighborhood with close neighbors with WiFi networks, in a cul-de-sac, so every house has WiFi.

FW: Firmware Version- V6.0.3.85_3.1.15

Overall number of connections both IoT and non IoT are: ~60 devices

I am using the 2.4/5Ghz IoT network setup.  I've only disabled the 20/40mhz co-existence on my setup.  Everything else is default Auto out of the box no other tweaks or configuration changes.

I have a family of 4 (teenagers) with multiple IoT devices, IoS, Nest, Ring, smart appliances, and Sonos.  Note: When I added Sonos <recently> to the mix I had major issues with the Satellite and connection problems, mainly as I added Sonos the Satellite would drop all my connections.  The router would still work however.  I tried many channel configs and different settings, but in the end disabling 20/40mhz and setting everything to Auto worked for me and Sonos and all my other devices worked. Though I did have to do a long restart sequence of Sonos speakers then router, etc. to get this working without issues.  Since then it's been stable.  

I have Sonos on my IoT network with around 30-40 IoT devices on it, Tv's, Ring, Kasa Light Switches, Hue lights, Nest Fire alarms, etc. LG and Samsung Tv's and appliances.  I keep my PC's, Laptops, and IoS devices on the main non-IoT network. 

My main issue with the above:  1-2 times per month my devices on the IoT network drop, I only figure this out as the TV will lose connection or my WiFi Kasa switches will show disconnected WiFi.  At this point I find that the Satellite will have dropped all of my WiFi devices connected to that Satellite both IoT and non-IoT WiFi.  I have not found any specific reason for this.  At this point I restart my Orbi Router and typically what occurs is that the Satellite will not be connected, but the wired connections to the Satellite are still working??  What I need to do to get the Satellite back is to power off the Satellite, get that restarted and in sequence restart the Router while hitting the Satellite connect /sync button.  This is what brings my Satellite back to life and the everything stabilizes.  I've tried both of the Satellites in my setup and both react the same way. 

Any ideas on the above? Any additional information I can provide?

Any thoughts to needing to add in my second satellite if that would help or make things worse?

Appreciate any thoughts or feedback you may have.  



 

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  • FURRYe38's avatar
    FURRYe38
    Guru - Experienced User

    CMcD2009 wrote:

    Hello, first time on the community posting for some help.  I have the RBKE963B system and am using a single satellite in my setup. 


    My details are:

    Home 2-floors at 2900 sq ft.  Home is in rectangle form with the router on one far end of the home and the satellite is connected via wired backhaul over Cat5e. (Cable tested multiple times, backhaul shows "Good")  Only using router and satellite on the 2nd floor.  Router on one end of the second floor and satellite on the other far end of the home.
    What is the distance between the router and 📡 satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS📡 to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
    https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite 📡


    I am in a congested neighborhood with close neighbors with WiFi networks, in a cul-de-sac, so every house has WiFi.
    Might turn down the transmit power on the RBR to 50%. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Setting. Can help with some interference problems if seen from neighboring wifi signals. 


    FW: Firmware Version- V6.0.3.85_3.1.15

    Overall number of connections both IoT and non IoT are: ~60 devices

    I am using the 2.4/5Ghz IoT network setup.  I've only disabled the 20/40mhz co-existence on my setup.  Everything else is default Auto out of the box no other tweaks or configuration changes.

    I have a family of 4 (teenagers) with multiple IoT devices, IoS, Nest, Ring, smart appliances, and Sonos.  Note: When I added Sonos <recently> to the mix I had major issues with the Satellite and connection problems, mainly as I added Sonos the Satellite would drop all my connections.  The router would still work however.  I tried many channel configs and different settings, but in the end disabling 20/40mhz and setting everything to Auto worked for me and Sonos and all my other devices worked. Though I did have to do a long restart sequence of Sonos speakers then router, etc. to get this working without issues.  Since then it's been stable.  

    I have Sonos on my IoT network with around 30-40 IoT devices on it, Tv's, Ring, Kasa Light Switches, Hue lights, Nest Fire alarms, etc. LG and Samsung Tv's and appliances.  I keep my PC's, Laptops, and IoS devices on the main non-IoT network. 
    What happens if you remove the SONOs device. Does the problem continue? 

    Can the SONO be ethernet connected by chance? I believe SONOs has it's own wifi broadcast signal source.


    My main issue with the above:  1-2 times per month my devices on the IoT network drop, I only figure this out as the TV will lose connection or my WiFi Kasa switches will show disconnected WiFi.  At this point I find that the Satellite will have dropped all of my WiFi devices connected to that Satellite both IoT and non-IoT WiFi.  I have not found any specific reason for this.  At this point I restart my Orbi Router and typically what occurs is that the Satellite will not be connected, but the wired connections to the Satellite are still working??  What I need to do to get the Satellite back is to power off the Satellite, get that restarted and in sequence restart the Router while hitting the Satellite connect /sync button.  This is what brings my Satellite back to life and the everything stabilizes.  I've tried both of the Satellites in my setup and both react the same way. 

    Any ideas on the above? Any additional information I can provide?

    Any thoughts to needing to add in my second satellite if that would help or make things worse?

    Appreciate any thoughts or feedback you may have.  



     


     

    • CMcD2009's avatar
      CMcD2009
      Aspirant

      Thanks FURRYe38 

      As mentioned, the Satellite is back haul connected over Cat 5e.  It's around 35+ft away from the router regardless, but not connected to the Router over Wireless, it is Wired Cat 5e.

      For the Sonos speakers I have 4 of them and unfortunately, they are all in a Wifi connected only area vs. Wired setup so my only option right now is WiFi for them.  You are correct they are connected on a WiFi channel 1 currently.  I have not tried changing this in anyway on the Sonos speakers.  

      My setup works with the exception of this 1-2 times per month Satellite drop of all WiFi connections.  The Satellite wired connections continue to work.  My assumption is something on the WiFi connected to the Satellite causes a congestion issue or drop.  

      I'll try the RBR transmit power setting and see how that goes.  I'll also look at disconnecting the Sonos for a while to see if that gets me through a full month without the Satellite dropping.

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru - Experienced User

        CMcD2009 wrote:

        Thanks FURRYe38 

        As mentioned, the Satellite is back haul connected over Cat 5e.  It's around 35+ft away from the router regardless, but not connected to the Router over Wireless, it is Wired Cat 5e.
        Is the RBS connected to the RBR using both 2.5Gb ports on the RBS and RBR? If so, you should be using CAT6A STP cable for this. 5e only officially supports 1Gb. 


        For the Sonos speakers I have 4 of them and unfortunately, they are all in a Wifi connected only area vs. Wired setup so my only option right now is WiFi for them.  You are correct they are connected on a WiFi channel 1 currently.  I have not tried changing this in anyway on the Sonos speakers.  

        My setup works with the exception of this 1-2 times per month Satellite drop of all WiFi connections.  The Satellite wired connections continue to work.  My assumption is something on the WiFi connected to the Satellite causes a congestion issue or drop.  

        I'll try the RBR transmit power setting and see how that goes.  I'll also look at disconnecting the Sonos for a while to see if that gets me through a full month without the Satellite dropping.