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SivinNoc
Apr 09, 2023Tutor
Have they ever fixed the RBR 750 AP-Mode yet?
I've wondered if Netgear ever will fix the issue with the RBR 750 AP-Mode not working since firmware version 4 to current. I see several posts about it but no solution that doesn't involve downgradin...
SivinNoc
Apr 10, 2023Tutor
When I switch to AP mode I lose all wireless every 30-50 seconds...it comes back on but same thing over and over. Satellites won't sync. Switch to router mode and everything is fine.
I'm a IT professional by trade and this double-nat'ing aggravates my ocd.
I've been running an RBR50 for years with no problems. Upgraded and it's been a headache.
I've DHCP...Static...check the logs and nothing. No indication of what's going wrong.
I'm using a Hitron (Spectrum) E31U2V1 DOCSIS 3.1 eMTA Internet Cable Modem and a Palo Alto Networks PA-220 Firewall.
plemans
Apr 10, 2023Guru
How do you have it setup?
In ap mode are the satellites hardwired in?
Are they using the wired backhaul?
I've frequently seen users stick their Orbi in AP mode and then connect it in using a lan port and not the wan port.
- SivinNocApr 12, 2023Tutor
I'd like to user wireless backhaul. Kinda worthless to own an Orbi if I have to start running cat-6 thoughout the house. There are other solutions a whole lot cheaper.
I found that if I moved the port on my RBR 750 from the "internet" port to one of the standard lan ports it works just fine as a AP without constantly dropping wireless. Problem is it seems to lose the ability to connect to the RBS 750. It works when I plug the RBS 750 directly into my main switch, but what is the point of that?
My main issue is my RBR50 and my RBS50 worked just fine in this manner. Not exactly happy with my upgrade this far.
- plemansApr 12, 2023Guru
You don't have to use a wired backhaul.
its just something we ask because I've seen some switches cause issues with the backhaul.
If you're using wireless, thats fine. Again, just clarification.
When you get i ssues, what actually happens? Do devices say "connected, no internet"? Do devices not connect at all but can see the wireless broadcasting? Are they unable to see the wireless at all?
Again, I've got that same model and its working fine in AP mode.
- SivinNocApr 12, 2023Tutor
Last night I factory reset all devices. RBR750 and both RBS750s. I set everything up from factory in the following physical configuration and by default it set everything up in router mode. Everything was set up and both satellites synced.
Hitron (Spectrum) E31U2V1 DOCSIS 3.1 eMTA Internet Cable Modem-->Palo Alto Networks PA-220 Firewall-->Cisco 3750X-->RBR 750(internet port)
When I switch the RBR 750 to AP-Mode (I've tried using a static ip and DHCP) everything works fine...for about 50 seconds. Then wireless drops. I can't even ping the admin interface of the RBR750 (from a device on the wired lan) for about 20 seconds then everything is back up....for about 30 to 50 seconds. rinse repeat.
If I move to the following configuration:
I'm using a Hitron (Spectrum) E31U2V1 DOCSIS 3.1 eMTA Internet Cable Modem-->Palo Alto Networks PA-220 Firewall-->Cisco 3750X-->RBR 750(Lan Port)
The RBR750 works just fine as an AP....but the satellites won't sync.
I imagine the vast majority of folks that use these devices use router mode and they are just fine, but I want to control my traffic though my PA-220 which has way more robust protection than anything netgear offers.
- FURRYe38Apr 12, 2023Guru
The RBR requires the use of the WAN port to connect the RBR to any ISP modem or host router to work properly in router or AP mode. If the RBS works directly connected to the back of the RBR and not at its remote location, this means there is a bad connection problem between the remote location and what connects up to the back of the RBR. Bad cabling, jacks, terminations, LAN switches can cause problems. Something you'll need to dive into and find where the problem is.
Be sure that the RBS when ethernet connected to the RBR that if you use any LAN switches that these are connected behind the RBR and the RBS connected in daisy chain to the switch. Any RBS ethernet connections has to be in serial behind the RBR. Not in parallel. https://kb.netgear.com/000051205/What-is-Ethernet-backhaul-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System 📡This works tried and true when all is connected and configured correctly.