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rl72
Jun 13, 2022Guide
iPhones drop connection to RB850
Hi, I've read this thread: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-WiFi-6-AX-and-WiFi-6E-AXE/iPhone-loses-WiFi-connection-with-RBR850/m-p/1961247 and having similar, but perhaps different issues - ...
FURRYe38
Jun 13, 2022Guru - Experienced User
What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the distance between the router and 📡 satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS📡 to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
I recommend changing the CTS value to 64 since you have 4 RBS. This will help lower the collisions with having 3 or more RBS in one locations.
Might reduce the power to 50% as well on the RBR. Help off load devices from connecting too much at the RBR and get them more on the RBS.
Possible you might have 1 too many RBS as well however your building materials may impact this.
rl72 wrote:
Hi,
I've read this thread: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-WiFi-6-AX-and-WiFi-6E-AXE/iPhone-loses-WiFi-connection-with-RBR850/m-p/1961247 and having similar, but perhaps different issues - there are 4 of us in our house, all with iPhones. All of us experience similar problems. Our iPhones drop wifi connection. Sometimes it reconnects after a while, sometimes we have to disable and re-enable wifi on the iPhone to reconnect, and sometimes we have to remove the SSID - "forget network" and go through the motions of adding the SSID back. It's super annoying because we happen to live in an area with near zero mobile network coverage so wifi is critical for all of us.
Setup:
1 gb fibre via BT (UK) with ISP provided modem
1 x Orbi RBR850 router
4 x Orbi RBS850 satellites
approx 25-30 devices connected at any given point in time (satellite tv, apple tvs, Sonos, laptops, nest thermostats & co2 monitors, and some other IOT devices)
house is ~7,500 sq ft and an old property, so big, thick walls. All satellites are connected to router via ethernet since the 5ghz backhaul didn't really work in our home (meta point: we used to have Apple Airport Extremes throughout the house connected via same ethernet and worked fine for 6yrs without any issues, albeit slow since we upgraded our ISP to 1gb fibre)
I've been in touch with netgear support for a month now, and still no resolution. What we tried:
manually reinstalled firmware on router after factory reset
reset all satellites
2.4ghz set to ch 11
5ghz set to ch 44
AX disabled
CTS = 2349
MTU = 500
reset network settings on iPhones and re-added orbi SSID
there may have been one or 2 other things we did, but I now forget.
Anyway, over my morning coffee this morning I was browsing the news on my phone, and again network dropped while using my phone, so not in DND mode or phone in Lock Screen mode. So I disable wifi, re-enable and its back. This kept happening and lost connectivity 4 times in 1 hr, in spite of being relatively stationary, in one room, less than 20ft away from the satellite. On one of the 4 occasions it wouldn't reconnect, so I had to go through the whole "forget network" and adding it back in process. Our iPhones are relatively new (oldest is XR, newest is 13 pro, all running iOS 15.5)
This is super annoying, and I'm almost at the point of ditching orbi and going to something else (even back to my old apple airport extremes), but I'm not one for giving up this quickly.
Any tips/advice would be much appreciated - NETGEAR Support have run out of things for me to try, it seems.
perhaps donawalt or FURRYe38 have some sage advice from their previous exchange?
thanks!
R
- rl72Jun 13, 2022Guide
Hi FURRYe38
running firmware: v4.6.3.16 on router and satellites.
as just posted in response to donawalt - 1 x router and 3 x satellites in main house and 1 x satellite in a garden office. router is on 2nd floor of house, and distance to nearest satellite on 1st floor is >30 feet. then 2 satellites on ground floor, ~100 feet apart, and each of them are probably 50 feet from satellite on 1st floor. it's an old house with super thick walls. As an fyi, measuring wifi strength using wifisweetspots I get ~400mbs in room where satellite is placed, and in room next door that drops to ~10mbps, only a few feet away. Hence the reason all my satellites are wired. But I'll play around with satellite placement and may try remove one to see if that improves reliability.
Given the above setup, would you still recommend dropping CTS to 64?
And how do I go about reducing power to the RBR by 50%?
R
- FURRYe38Jun 13, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Try changing CTS to 64 for now. What I'm using and my iPhone doesn't disconnect any.
I do disable WIFI Private IP address while at home. This Apple feature is NOT needed while at home.
- rl72Jun 26, 2022GuideHi.
I removed one of the satellites and now down to 2 satellites in the main house and a 3rd satellite in another building quite far away.
I’ve also dropped CTS to 64. It was working OK for a few days and then issues started again. Oddly, as I was typing this (on my phone), standing 2 feet from a satellite, I’ve lost connection twice in the time it’s taken me to type this. I’m lost at what to do next. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.