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unioncorps
Jul 28, 2023Guide
Is there any benefit to have a wired backhaul for an Orbi Mesh system?
Hello everyone, Apologize for the lengthy post in advance, but wanted to give some background first. Product: 1 wireless RBR750 router, 2 satellites RBS750 Home Size: 2 story, 4100 sq ft Cu...
CrimpOn
Jul 28, 2023Guru - Experienced User
unioncorps wrote:
since you won't get any added bandwidth from freeing up that wireless backhaul band and can't use it anyway.
While true, this is irrelevant. Transmission over WiFi is horribly slow compared to wired Ethernet. (Each packet is physically larger. There are 'gaps' in the stream as devices send 'management frames'. And, WiFi is inherently "one person transmits at a time", whereas Ethernet allows data to flow in both directions simultaneously. With one router and two satellites, that WiFi backhaul channel is shared between all three radios (and any nearby WiFi system using the same channels). MoCA shares this characteristic as the COAX bandwidth is shared between all MoCA devices that are connected. A separate physical Ethernet cable from router to each satellite provides the highest practical bandwidth.
unioncorps wrote:
My impression around mesh technology is that regardless of where you go in the home (assuming the mesh is setup correctly), you'd still achieve consistent speeds throughout even at the ends of the home furthest from the router via the satellites. For example, knowing that there are a ton of more factors to consider but for simplicity sake let's ignore for now, if I'm paying for 800Mbps down I would expect to see speeds consistently close to 800 Mbps everywhere I had a connected satellite and throughout the home.
This is simply incorrect. A device farther from a WiFi access point will always deliver less performance than a device near to one. It's physics.
Mesh means that no matter where you go in the house, devices will remain connected to a single WiFi network. One SSID/password. Transitions will be seamless. Creating a larger WiFi footprint by installing a bunch of "WiFi Extenders" will product a spaghetti mess of separate WiFi networks. They may all have the same SSID/password, but devices will not roam seamlessly between them.
unioncorps
Jul 28, 2023Guide
Appreciate the clarification to my initial thought. While I want to run physical ethernet cables to each room, I think I'm going to try the MoCA route and at least get the 2 satellites wired to the router via my coax cables that are already existing and not being used to see if that improves anything.
My hope is that with a wired backhaul, the wifi from each satellite can provide better speeds to devices connected to them. And thanks to FURRYe38, it's good to know that the wifi clients themselves are the limiting factor and may not even be able to realize the full speeds.
- FURRYe38Jul 28, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Wired anything will be always better than wifi. Lots of different factors go into Wifi considerations.
unioncorps wrote:
Appreciate the clarification to my initial thought. While I want to run physical ethernet cables to each room, I think I'm going to try the MoCA route and at least get the 2 satellites wired to the router via my coax cables that are already existing and not being used to see if that improves anything.
My hope is that with a wired backhaul, the wifi from each satellite can provide better speeds to devices connected to them. And thanks to FURRYe38, it's good to know that the wifi clients themselves are the limiting factor and may not even be able to realize the full speeds.