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Cameron_s92
Dec 13, 2022Guide
LAN WiFi Speeds
Hi everyone, I am new to Orbi so not sure if I am missing something obvious or perhaps have just misunderstood something. I have a home server that I store media on and use as LAN storage f...
plemans
Dec 13, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Yes you did fall for some marketing.
its an AX6000 device.
Its triband with the backhaul being 2400mbps, and the fronthaul being 2400mbps on 5ghz and 1200mbps on 2.4ghz. (can't connect to both at once). And thats with a 4x4 antenna.
Most phones/wifi cards are only 1x1 or 2x2 devices. (antenna). So your 1200mbps connection is right in line with what you can expect from a 2x2 device.
Cameron_s92
Dec 15, 2022Guide
So from what I've read on the datasheet, it has 2 channels at 2.4Gbps (one for WiFi and the other for satellites), and one channel at 1.2Gbps but I'm obviously only getting 1.2Gbps,which is half the maximum speed on the 5Ghz band. Have I understood that right and am I doing something wrong?
- plemansDec 15, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Still reading a little wrong.
it has 3x channels being a triband.
1 that is 2.4ghz and is capable of 1200mbps over 2.4ghz AX connection with 4x4 antennas
1 that is 5ghz that is 2400mbps using a 4x4 setup that is dedicated to fronthaul (connects to devices)
1 that is 5ghz that is 2400mbps using a 4x4 setup but is backhaul (router---satellite only)
The 5ghz 2400mbps using 4x4 antenna? Is means if you have a 1x1 antenna it connects at 600mbps max, 2x=1200mbps, 3x=1800mbps, 4x=2400mbps.
and like I said, it can't connect to the 2.4ghz and the 5ghz at the same time. Its one or the other.
The 2.4ghz can be used for failover on the dedicated backhaul but it rarely does that if setup properly.
Most cell phones/laptops only have a 1x1 or 2x2 antenna setup.
so if you're connecting at 1200mbps with a device that is 2x2 antenna setup, thats the maximum link speed it can get.
- Cameron_s92Dec 15, 2022Guide
I bought a new wifi card that advertised it could receive 2.4 Gbps, but after looking on the Intel site, it only has a 2x2 antenna so this could never be true.
If I doubled down and got a 4x4 wifi card, should that give me 2.4Gbps?
I’m also looking at adding a cheap ebay 10Gbps switch, between the orbi and the modem and just hard wire the server in and use the orbi as an AP. But I want the switch to look after dhcp so would need a layer 3 switch, any recommendations?
- plemansDec 15, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Some cards can do 2400mbps. but thats if both the card and the router support 160hz wide channels. The orbi's only use 80hz wide channels.
You can't put a switch between the modem----router.
Well, technically you can but it won't work. Reason why is most ISP's only support 1 public ip address (and therefore 1 device).
To make that work, you'd need to go modem-----switch that has integrated router functions (gets expensive)---->router in ap mode
You're looking at quite expensive upgrades that might not be worth the benefit.
- CrimpOnDec 15, 2022Guru - Experienced User
The business about antennas is a bit confusing. There are "Eight (8) high-performance internal antennas
with high-power amplifiers". https://www.netgear.com/images/datasheet/orbi/RBK852.pdf page 4.The FCC submission clearly shows eight antennas:
Here they took out the antennas (8)
This leaves me with a distinct impression that four antennas are used for the 4x4 5G backhaul link and four antennas are shared by the 4x4 2.4G and 5G user radio links. Seems (to a country person) that any given antenna can be broadcasting (or receiving) at 2.4G or at 5G, but not both at the same time. (as well as not broadcasting and receiving at the same time).
"Marketing Speak", indeed.
- Cameron_s92Dec 20, 2022GuideAny recommendations on an internal WiFi card that will make use of the full 2.4Gbps? I've done a Google search for 4x4 antenna WiFi card but I don't want to make another mistake and get it wrong again.
Cheers
Cam