NETGEAR is aware of a growing number of phone and online scams. To learn how to stay safe click here.
Forum Discussion
bigfishe
May 03, 2023Aspirant
Multi Building Single ISP FIBER FEED config help
Current Configuration: current barn with living space: 1 GB MIDCO ISP fiber into their HITRON NOV2004 modem, that connects to a current Orbi RBR750 router and a RBS750, adding a new h...
CrimpOn
May 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Thanks for including the diagram. Alas, the RBR750 router is not shown, which is critical.
Only one router can be connected to the Hitron, and since the primary network is functioning, I assume it is the RBR750.
The RBR750 should be between the Hitron and the switch. Is it?
Congratulations on being able to install fiber between the buildings. (Catt6 Ethernet cable would have worked over this distance as well, but there certainly is nothing wrong with fiber.)
bigfishe
May 03, 2023Aspirant
sorry i copy pasted the cells, the RBR750 is the first device after the Hitron, and fiber should come from switch on barn side see attached
- FURRYe38May 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Does a wired PC or laptop get internet services at the HOUSE location?
- bigfisheMay 03, 2023Aspirant
I'm going to test that very thing tonight, i didn't have my wired network adapter at home for my laptop with me when i first tried.
all lights on switches both sides indicate communication is good.
- FURRYe38May 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
IF you do get internet there, then putting the RBR in AP mode should work. I would set the RBR750s DHCP IP address pool range to .100 to .200:
Then configure a static IP address for the 9 series RBR in AP mode, 192.168.1.96:
https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Be sure your using CAT6A STP cabling from the 9 series RBR to the switch.
If you want to use the 9 series in router mode, to avoid Double NAT issues, use the 7 series RBR DMZ for the IP address that the 9 series RBR gets from the 7 series RBR.
- CrimpOnMay 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Thanks. Diagram is perfectly clear. The RBR960 router WAN port should connect to the RBR750 router through the two switches and the optical fiber.
If this isn't happening, the usual first step would be to validate that the Ethernet connection is working. i.e. connect a device with Ethernet to the 16 port switch and verify that it
- connects to the RBR750 router
- is assigned an IP address by the router
- has internet access
If that works, then the RBR960 router connected to the same switch port should also connect to the RBR750 and be assigned an IP address on its WAN port. Everything connected to the RBR960 should have internet access.
There is one potential issue with this arrangement, the "Dreaded Double NAT". Because everything connected to the RBR960 is behind a second router, the RBR960 will "hide" all those devices from the RBR750 network so that they all appear to be coming from the IP address of the RBR960. (That's what NAT does.) Ordinarily, this would not be an issue, but there are specific situations where this will frustrate attempts to do things such as VPN into the network remotely through the internet, file sharing, and certain internet gaming. (Search the internet for "double NAT" for instances. In that case, putting the RBR960 into Access Point (AP) mode is necessary.
At 250' apart, the two networks will not be likely to interfere with each other so it may be easier to set both of them to use the same WiFi SSID/password. Devices will not roam seamlessly between the two systems, but by the time someone travels from the barn to the house (or back), the device will probably have dropped the WiFi connection entirely.
(Might be a good idea to set the 2.4G WiFi channels differently, since 2.4G WiFi carries farther than 5G.)