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New - RBR750 / RBS750 Firmware Version 4.6.5.14 Released
Enhancements:
Adds support for the RBS350
Security Fixes:
Fixes security vulnerabilities.
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WOW, this morning about 2am i decided to update my two ORBI RBS satillites first. and that went ok, till a fantom ORBI showed up in my Orbi App. i then proceeded to update the RBR750, that went well till it said it was online but it wasnt. i followed the directions according to Furrye38, (ty) and i unplugged the sats and then the router, waited 2-3 minutes then i plugged in the router and then the sats and waited........it took a few minutes and the router came online then the sats followed. it still took some time for all my devices to get back on line (about 60), which is normal thing that has been happening. then today was the test. we had some heavy thunderstorms roll in, these south florida storms alway knock out some power or damages some weak transformers to were the power goes on and off real quick. it happened 3 times in a half hour i also have the comcast modem and the RBR750 plugged into a surge and battery back up. the weakest like here is the sats, no battery-back up for them and they used to take forever to re-sync but after the upgraded firmware last night, WOW, the ORBI's came right back online which shocked me, i thought i would need to reboot the sats. but no input from me and the whole system came back online quick. i am no IT guy here but this is a major inprovement from the previous firmware that almost killed the ORBI system. thanks to all here on this forum, i have learned alot from here.
FURRYe38 wrote:
Ok so my D-Link DGS-108 is a Rev B1. Putting it inbetween the RBR and RBS, thats working.
The NG GS-308 I have is a v3. The power supply was bad on it so I had to find another suitable PS. I connected it up in between the RBR and RBS and it also works. RBS shows wired status on the RBRs web page.
So I see that your topology you have the RBS wirelessly connected and you want to put a switch after one of the RBS and connect devices to this switch? I'll test this out. I'll have my RBS wirelessly connected to the RBR and put the NG GS308 connected after the RBS and connect up my Mac Book Pro to the switch and see what happens.
My 2 satellites and 1 switch are hard wired and occupy the RBR750 router's 3 available LAN ports.
So the RBS are directly wired to the RBR and the last LAN port is used for the LAN switch?
No switch in between the RBR and RBS?
FURRYe38 wrote:So the RBS are directly wired to the RBR and the last LAN port is used for the LAN switch?
No switch in between the RBR and RBS?
Correct. Can't maintain a stable connection to anything wired to the switch. I can get a connection after reboots but it doesn't last, eventually goes back to "Self Assigned IP". I've got 7 hardwired runs: 3 computers, 2 TVs, 2 unused. Get same behaviour with a Mac or Windows machine. If I take the cable run out of switch and into RBR750, works fine, so I know its not the cabling or computer.
Orbi needs to make a compatible 8port switch or fix their firmware. This is absolutely ridiculous.
I'm looking at the ASUS units, Eero Pro...we need stable internet, this has been a huge disruption to our work from home activities.
Ok I'll put my GS308 being my RBR750 and connecrt up a few wired devices to the switch.
Ok, RBR750>GS308v3>wired PCs.
Windows 10x64 connected:Mac Mini 2012 connected.
Saw same speed test results.
Also OSX has a 2Gb update that I started and saw it download thru the GS308 successfully.
Can you downgrade your RBR750 to v4.6.3.16 by chance?
Like many of you, I'm looking for an alternative/replacement. Its beyond crazy that Netgear has not fixed this yet.
I'm lucky because I bought the 3 pack from Costco so I can return it at anytime. The problem is that there is not a similarly priced alternative. Due to my setup, I need a 3 pack.
I've looked at Eero, Alien, etc. From what I've read the performance isn't as good or the price is a lot higher for a 3 pack. Of course, those products don't constantly disconnect.
I rolled back my firmware and am blocking the updates by using openDNS so I haven't had the problems others have had.Open to suggestions.
ahswp wrote:Like many of you, I'm looking for an alternative/replacement. Its beyond crazy that Netgear has not fixed this yet.
I'm lucky because I bought the 3 pack from Costco so I can return it at anytime. The problem is that there is not a similarly priced alternative. Due to my setup, I need a 3 pack.
I've looked at Eero, Alien, etc. From what I've read the performance isn't as good or the price is a lot higher for a 3 pack. Of course, those products don't constantly disconnect.
I rolled back my firmware and am blocking the updates by using openDNS so I haven't had the problems others have had.Open to suggestions.
I don't have any real suggestions but I'm in the same boat. I can't run any of the 4x firmware versions without the satellites disconnecting but I'm now on the last 3x firmware and its ok.
I say ok, it has a bit of a problem on that firmware switching between satellites and the router. If I move to the point it will switch it is disconnecting however its not a huge problem, only really affecting the Nintendo Switch when I get told to move rooms. Still I'd rather handover was smoother.
My thoughts so far have been:
Asus ZenWifi XT8 - This seems like a better option for me with more customisation, but a quick glance through reviews suggests it requires regular reboots to stay stable. So much so that Asus implemented a config option to schedule a reboot while you are sleeping. This to me is only slightly better than what Netgear are doing.
Ubiquiti Amplifi Alien - I really like the look of this and having recently put a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter in with great success I thought this would be the thing. It doesn't seem to have a dedicated backhaul however and reviews suggest the Amplifi is more consumer quality. That doesn't necessarily matter to me except the EdgeRouter is so good, I don't think this will live up to it.
Obviously there are the Eeros and Nest wifi options, but I'm not a fan of google/amazon products.
Despite packing my Orbi up to send it back, in the end I've kept it. On 3.x its been stable enough to leave running. I don't feel like I'm getting the full speed (Orbi RBR50/RBS50 set up gave better speeds further away) and theres the quirk that things seem to disconnect when roaming from router to satellite everyone is connected and happy.
With all that said, my next wifi access points won't be Netgear. I might be "silly" because all these devices have their quirks, but I fundamentally disagree with spending near £600 for something that my free Sky router (which also creates a mesh) could do better. I also believe Netgear could have saved a lot of pain for a lot of people by making it easier to rollback firmware updates and allow customers to choose whether to install or not. The fact they've pushed such crippling updates and take so long to fix them, is not a company I want to support with my money
ahswp wrote:Like many of you, I'm looking for an alternative/replacement. Its beyond crazy that Netgear has not fixed this yet.
I'm lucky because I bought the 3 pack from Costco so I can return it at anytime. The problem is that there is not a similarly priced alternative. Due to my setup, I need a 3 pack.
I've looked at Eero, Alien, etc. From what I've read the performance isn't as good or the price is a lot higher for a 3 pack. Of course, those products don't constantly disconnect.
I rolled back my firmware and am blocking the updates by using openDNS so I haven't had the problems others have had.Open to suggestions.
If you're looking at cost, TO ME an effective route is to get a GOOD router such as a recent Asus router (even used), load Merlin's firmware, put the Orbi into AP using the Asus to block Orbi's updates, and be done with it.
Merlin takes the EXISTING Asus firmware and tweaks it to make it more usable, stable, and bulletproof. It's up to you if/when you want to update as needed. Since it's based on the factory firmware, all the UI/interface/screens look and work pretty much the same and all the features are intact (including free parental controls, firewall, and DNS security). Whenever Asus releases a new firmware, they go to work tweaking and improving it. Just get a more recent router (I use my old RT-AC68U) so it won't fall out of Merlin development anytime soon.
https://www.asuswrt-merlin.net/
https://www.snbforums.com/forums/asuswrt-merlin.42/
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Thanks for the Merlin info. I would consider doing that except the Merlin mods don't apply to the Asus mesh routers. If I wanted to complicate my network with another router upstream of the Orbi, I could have done that with stuff I have in my boneyard. I have space and power limitations and know that I'll find a mesh that works and meets my requirements. If not, I'll stick with my 5+ year old Netgear R7900 which is stable and performing well.. The Orbi was supposed to improve things but really just created work for me.