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FURRYe38
Mar 24, 2022Guru - Experienced User
New - RBR750 / RBS750 Firmware Version 4.6.7.13 Released
New Features: 03/24/2022
SPC support for clients connected to guest network.
DHCP Option 60&61 support for ISP internet & IPTV connectivity.
Enhancements:
Singapore password requiremen...
ZTZ1010
Mar 28, 2022Initiate
I'd highly recommend the "chucking them in the trash" road. I picked up a set of Eero Pro 6 and have not looked back.
I finally chucked my 752s after being perpetually frustrated by constant disconnects and related connectivity issues making them effectively unusable (like many people in the various prior threads have described). I don't have time to deal with unplugging or factory resetting them every day, or answering the same garbage canned questions about home size, channels, etc. We have tried all of that and I am not disabling the key features I bought the system for. It is clearly and indisputably a software issue since they used to function flawlessly, but if netgear would rather stick their heads in the sand rather than address it, that's fine. I 'll bring my business (and my corporate/enterprise business) elsewhere -- the eero pro 6 works flawlessly 🙂
atejwani
Mar 28, 2022Apprentice
ZTZ1010 - You are spot on!
Prior to Dec 2020, when I went "all-in" with Netgear Orbi:
- CBK752
- CBR 750 DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem/ WiFi 6 Wireless Router
- RBS 750
I had, since about 2010
- Arris SURFboard SVG2482AC - DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem, Wi-Fi 5 Wireless Router
- TP-Link WiFi Extender
Netgear Orbi CBK752 worked flawlessly till about August 2021, when Netgear pushed Version 4.6.3.x for the Netgear Orbi 750 series.
And since then - firmware updates, "tweaks"/"hacks" including disabling WiFi AX and IPV6, the performance/stability is worse than my 2010 setup.
I wish I had not given away my 2010 setup. I might have to go back to the drawing board.
- FURRYe38Mar 28, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Netgear has set up a community forum specifically for the Orbi With Cable Modem products. Most of the people who watch that forum are more likely to have experience with Orbi with cable modem (CBR series) products. Might be more likely to find someone who has a solution if the question is posted there:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-with-Built-in-Cable-Modem/bd-p/en-home-orbi-cable - likearaptorMar 28, 2022Aspirant
So I was noticing on 4.6.7.5 after 3 weeks I was getting only 10-20 Mbps even though when I tested the internet from the router my cable internet speed was 300+ Mbps. So I upgraded to the latest 4.6.7.13 over the weekend hoping it would help, but I saw zero improvement, same slow speeds. So I did what is recommended with resetting them, powering them off for 5+ minutes, and then re-set them back up to the appropriate settings. This time I left the transmit power and RTS settings as default, and only changed the Wireless name/password, and set it to AP mode. And now I am seeing around 300+ Mbps on speed tests on wireless like I was when I first started using 4.6.7.5. One thing to note when I was experiencing very slow wireless speeds, I could still connect to the satellite via an ethernet cord and get 250-300 Mbps of connectivity. The satellite node is not connected to my main internet via ethernet, just using the wireless back haul.
Home is around 4,700 square feet, distance between router and satellite is about 45 feet going through wood/carpet floor, and one wood interior wall with sheet rock and paint. The router is on the west end of the house while the satellite is on the east side. Nvidia shield is about 24 feet on the same level with nothing blocking the device and router and is more west than the RBR750 device, so the signal to the router is better than the satellite model.
I'm really hoping I am not going to have to hard reset the devices every 2-3 weeks. Hopefully this isn't needed again.
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Second item of discussion:
One thing that is interesting is, if my work computer is connected to the back of the Satellite (rbs) via ethernet, I can copy large files to another computer connected to the router (rbr) with speeds averaging 200-220 Mbps. If I disconnect the ethernet and connect via WiFi 6 (I'm just 8 feet from the Satellite) I can only get 80-100 Mbps on the same copy which runs for a good 3-5 minutes. But what's strange is I can get 250 Mbps on a speedtest out on the internet on the first PC when on WiFi or on ethernet, it doesn't seem to .
Thinking logically, if I can copy at 200+ Mbps via ethernet to the satellite and wirelessly to the second PC, the max receiving speed the second PC can take is around 200 Mbps. But when the first PC is on the wireless I get half the copy speed for some unknown reason. Maybe there is an issue when trying to talk to one device to another when going through the satellite and then re-broadcasting out the router via wireless?
Do other people see similar results?
- FURRYe38Mar 28, 2022Guru - Experienced User
likearaptor wrote:
So I was noticing on 4.6.7.5 after 3 weeks I was getting only 10-20 Mbps even though when I tested the internet from the router my cable internet speed was 300+ Mbps. So I upgraded to the latest 4.6.7.13 over the weekend hoping it would help, but I saw zero improvement, same slow speeds. So I did what is recommended with resetting them, powering them off for 5+ minutes, and then re-set them back up to the appropriate settings. This time I left the transmit power and RTS settings as default, and only changed the Wireless name/password, and set it to AP mode. And now I am seeing around 300+ Mbps on speed tests on wireless like I was when I first started using 4.6.7.5. One thing to note when I was experiencing very slow wireless speeds, I could still connect to the satellite via an ethernet cord and get 250-300 Mbps of connectivity. The satellite node is not connected to my main internet via ethernet, just using the wireless back haul.
Home is around 4,700 square feet, distance between router and satellite is about 45 feet going through wood/carpet floor, and one wood interior wall with sheet rock and paint. The router is on the west end of the house while the satellite is on the east side. Nvidia shield is about 24 feet on the same level with nothing blocking the device and router and is more west than the RBR750 device, so the signal to the router is better than the satellite model.
I'm really hoping I am not going to have to hard reset the devices every 2-3 weeks. Hopefully this isn't needed again.
Hoping v.13 will be working better for you. Be sure to save off a back up configuration to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed.
https://kb.netgear.com/000062080/How-do-I-back-up-the-configuration-settings-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Second item of discussion:
One thing that is interesting is, if my work computer is connected to the back of the Satellite (rbs) via ethernet, I can copy large files to another computer connected to the router (rbr) with speeds averaging 200-220 Mbps. If I disconnect the ethernet and connect via WiFi 6 (I'm just 8 feet from the Satellite) I can only get 80-100 Mbps on the same copy which runs for a good 3-5 minutes. But what's strange is I can get 250 Mbps on a speedtest out on the internet on the first PC when on WiFi or on ethernet, it doesn't seem to .
Thinking logically, if I can copy at 200+ Mbps via ethernet to the satellite and wirelessly to the second PC, the max receiving speed the second PC can take is around 200 Mbps. But when the first PC is on the wireless I get half the copy speed for some unknown reason. Maybe there is an issue when trying to talk to one device to another when going through the satellite and then re-broadcasting out the router via wireless?
Do other people see similar results?
Wireless between devices may or may not have same performances as does with Ethernet connections. Also two units processing wifi backhaul can reduce some performances seen between the RBR and RBS. Kind of a nature of the beast thing. Lots of wifi variables and factors that go into wifi performances.