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New - RBR850 / RBS850 Firmware Version v4.6.7.5 Released
No Release Notes at this time. I'll see if I can get some.
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mikijoe1 wrote:Hello !
I own an Orbi system and I have some of the problems that you mention in these posts that may be fixed by this future firmware upgrade.
ORBI RBR850 which is in AP mode (and DHCP) + 4 satellites RBS850 which are connected to the RBR850 with ethernet cables (Backhaul ethernet direclty wired to ports 1,2,3,4 of the RBR850). Everything is up to date with the latest official version (in France) which is V4.6.3.16_2.0.51.
My internet provider is Free (in France) using optical fiber (10Gb EPON) and the box is Freebox Delta (having an integrated router with 4 ethenet Gibagit ports).
Hi,
As far as I know you can not have DHCP on in AP mode,
Reading this and your other questions gives me the hunch that using Beta-firmware might not be the best idea for you.
Since you have a full-wired backhaul, I would advice you to simply disconnect the satellite from port 1 on the router and connect it to one of the LAN ports of another (wire connected) satellite (wired daisy-chain). If you have the router port one issue that should solve it.
If it works it will be a fast solution and if issues remain or other issues appear you can at least send it all back without any difficult questions about Beta-firmware and where it came from.
It is an official release by Netgear, but you did not get it from their support and Netgear did not advice you to use it. It should work and you can use it, but it is Beta so it might cause issues.
If you have any issues remaining, you will never know if it is your hardware or the beta-firmware.
So if you feel you know what you're doing use this firmware if not then don't.
Good luck.
Also if you want to free up LAN ports on the back of the RBR, you can install a non-managed GB LAN switch on the back of the RBR and connect your RBS directly to this switch. This helps free up LAN ports on the RBR if needed for other wired devices.
I have been informed by the french support that it should be better to connect every satellite to an ethernet port of the orbi router, so that is what I did, I knew that installing an intermediate unmnanaged gigabit switch shoud word but I did not plug any.
Unfortunately the bug of the first ethenert port having ethernet backhaul with router in AP mode caused many troubles, so I have also changed the ethernet cat.7 cable just in case (but it was not guilty...).
My orbi router is on AP mode and DHCP (initially I used static manual IP address but I now I have set it in static DHCP) with the new firmware 4.6.7.5, everything is working fine !!!
4 satellites are correctly detected and displayed as Wired with backaul status "Good".
Also, in the Orbi iOS app, everything is fine, except in the RBR850 (router) that has some devices shown as wired but they are wifi (Iphone, logitech harmony), I don't know how it is possible, maybe a refresh bug or a delay when refreshing the connected devices in the orbi app (depending on if it's connected over internet or localy).
The speed tests are still good with the new firmware version, tested with iphone 13 pro : download 937,36 Mbit/s, upload 673,32 Mbit/s, ping 2,97 ms
Congrats, Well done.
Some insights:
The DHCP you mention is the DHCP towards your internet router, i was confusing it with the DHCP toward LAN. So that cleared my question, thanks.
Hope the setup remains stable.
As for the Wired / Wireless, I have seen this on my system in 2 cases:
The client was connected tot a satellite that is connected to the router by wire. The router reports a wired connection (and from that perspective that is true) but is should see trough te satellite and report a wireless connection. It's a bug but a minor one, and in my case it was just every now and then.
The client connects wirelessly (kind-off using the wifi as a tunnel) to some other device that is connected by wire (my Sonos devices do this). This is not caused by te router but caused by the device.
Please keep me posted on your experience, your set-up is fairly simular to mine and i'm curious what you find. It might be something I will encounter in the future (hopefully you'll just be good from now on, but you never know).
One question about the speedtest, did you test the speed in the Orbi app / on the routers website (sp test the rpouter speed) or straight on the device (browser on Iphone to www.speedtest.net)?
My guess is you used the ap or the router website. Impressive speeds, and as far as i know your iphone should not be able to get that speed directly to the internet, your router should.
If you test the iPhone speed directly (browser on phone to speedtest.net) you should get something around 600Kb. Apple does not use very fast Wifi hardware. So having actual phone speeds above 700Kb would be very interesting to me.
mikijoe1 wrote:I have been informed by the french support that it should be better to connect every satellite to an ethernet port of the orbi router, so that is what I did, I knew that installing an intermediate unmnanaged gigabit switch shoud word but I did not plug any.
Unfortunately the bug of the first ethenert port having ethernet backhaul with router in AP mode caused many troubles, so I have also changed the ethernet cat.7 cable just in case (but it was not guilty...).
My orbi router is on AP mode and DHCP (initially I used static manual IP address but I now I have set it in static DHCP) with the new firmware 4.6.7.5, everything is working fine !!!
4 satellites are correctly detected and displayed as Wired with backaul status "Good".
Also, in the Orbi iOS app, everything is fine, except in the RBR850 (router) that has some devices shown as wired but they are wifi (Iphone, logitech harmony), I don't know how it is possible, maybe a refresh bug or a delay when refreshing the connected devices in the orbi app (depending on if it's connected over internet or localy).
The speed tests are still good with the new firmware version, tested with iphone 13 pro : download 937,36 Mbit/s, upload 673,32 Mbit/s, ping 2,97 ms
I have launched the initial speedtests on the orbi app on iphone, then on the the orbi router app.
As you suggested I have run the speedtest on iphone with speedtest app (783 Mbps), and after that with speedtest website on my macbook pro M1 Pro (823 Mbps) :
mikijoe1 wrote:
I have been informed by the french support that it should be better to connect every satellite to an ethernet port of the orbi router, so that is what I did, I knew that installing an intermediate unmnanaged gigabit switch shoud word but I did not plug any.
Just for future reference, you can plug in RBS to a good quality non managed LAN eithernet switch and they will work fine thru the switch: NG GS-105/108v4 and GS308v3, D-Link DGS-105/108 and HP ProCurve 1400/1800 series switches work for Orbi systems.
Unfortunately the bug of the first ethenert port having ethernet backhaul with router in AP mode caused many troubles, so I have also changed the ethernet cat.7 cable just in case (but it was not guilty...).
When in either router or AP mode, the yellow WAN port on the RBR should be connected to the upstream modem when in router mode or host router when in AP mode.
My orbi router is on AP mode and DHCP (initially I used static manual IP address but I now I have set it in static DHCP) with the new firmware 4.6.7.5, everything is working fine !!!
4 satellites are correctly detected and displayed as Wired with backaul status "Good".
Also, in the Orbi iOS app, everything is fine, except in the RBR850 (router) that has some devices shown as wired but they are wifi (Iphone, logitech harmony), I don't know how it is possible, maybe a refresh bug or a delay when refreshing the connected devices in the orbi app (depending on if it's connected over internet or localy).
The speed tests are still good with the new firmware version, tested with iphone 13 pro : download 937,36 Mbit/s, upload 673,32 Mbit/s, ping 2,97 ms
Seems that you are good to go now. Glad you got it working. Be sure to save off a back up configuration to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed.
https://kb.netgear.com/000062080/How-do-I-back-up-the-configuration-settings-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
Enjoy. 📡Ok, after over a week of no crashes, I think I might have found out my culprit and the root of all my issues I have been experiencing with my Orbi during the last 6 months.
When I purchased this Orbi (RBK852 AX6000) I also leased a Comcast XB7 Gateway. I have never rented modems from my ISP before, but this time it was different because I wanted to take advantage of my 1.4Gbps connection plan. (Comcast refuses to let you utilize any modem with more than one Ethernet port, I mean you can use one of those modems if you wish, but only ONE ethernet port on that modem can be used at any given time, You can only do that with their own modem) Since this Orbi only has one 2.5Gbps WAN port I wouldn't be able to get that full speed on my main desktop PC which has a 10GbE Network card.
The Comcast gateway has 4 ports, among those there's one 2.5GbE ethernet port, the rest are 1Gb. So I connected my main desktop PC to that 2.5GbE port and then connected the Orbi to one of the aditional gigabit ports. The Comcast modem was functioning as a router, while the Orbi was in AP Mode. This is how I have had everything working all this time and everything was working as it should (Or so I thought)
Over a week ago I decided to purchase this QNAP 6-Port 10GbE & 2.5GbE switch. Then I connected the switch to the XB7 2.5GbE port, then the Orbi with a CAT 7 cable to its 2.5GbE port respectively.
Now both my main desktop PC and the Orbi as well as my NAS all enjoy direct 2.5Gbps connections from the switch. With this new setup I have not experienced any more crashes. So in short it appears that either the Comcast Gateway was unable to reroute traffic properly to the Orbi with that setup or the Orbi was not able to receive the traffic properly.
Either way, I believe that was the issue, now this new firmware might have also helped, however before introducing the new switch in the mix and with this firmware already on the Orbi I still experienced a crash one time. However it seemed it was more stable with the setup I had than what the previous firmware was.
I'm crossing fingers that things keep working this way and I'm re-writing my reviews about the Orbi where I was absolutely blaming it for the issues I was having.
