Orbi 753 unencrypted 5ghz network even though WPA2 security is turned on

Mine are the non E version however....Wonder if these E versions are somehow different 

Alright so here is the interesting result

1) did you suggested i.e first wireless sync, then connected directly via Lan patch

2) noticed security was off 2.4GHz, reapplied WPA2 on router, and that updated the security to WPA2 there

THen disconnected satellite, moved to other location behind a NG 105, first waiting to get wireless sync, then plugged in cable, does not detect wired connection on router, stays at 5G for backhaul

Figuring that both satellites were first synced via 5GHZ and security was ok on both satellites, I would try to switch to AP mode on router.

Did that, satellites came up as wired on ethernet backhaul but then lost WPA2 on 5GHz band on satellite

I have reverted for now to Router mode with backhaul over 5GHZ, since i don't like the security tradeoff of no WPA2 on 5GHZ on the satellites.

I guess the backhaul over ethernet is not as steady or perhaps it is my home wired network. Although, I am inclined to think not, since in AP mode, the satellites show up with wired ethernet backhaul almost instaneously..

Will see how the speeds line up over 5GHZ mode because wired connections were indeed beautiful but at least i won't get weird messages about connecting to the same SSID before in protected mode and then in open mode depending on where I am in the house..

So LAN patch cable, it synce fully ON wireless then ON ethernet correct? 

"THen disconnected satellite, moved to other location behind a NG 105, first waiting to get wireless sync, then plugged in cable, does not detect wired connection on router, stays at 5G for backhaul" < This is a indication of the RBS is failing to get a good signal thru this path. I would place a bet that your switch or cabing in between the RBR and RBS are causing this problem. You have slightly different switches from the ones I have. I also see these are End of Life as well on NG support site. 

Future reference, please edit out any MAC addresses on screen captures in public forums. :smileywink:

Good point on MAC addresses.. 

Yes, probably something in the cabling. I may experiment with newer NG switches and see what happens

thanks

Sunil

:smileywink:

ANyone reporting better luck with NG managed vs unmanaged ethernet switchs ?

What I have is this, i.e a managed NG switch, albeit I am just wondering if anyone has better luck with managed vs unmanaged switches ?

NETGEAR 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Plus Switch (GS105Ev2) - Desktop, and ProSAFE Limited Lifetime Protection

the newer one is 

NETGEAR 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Plus Switch (GS305E)

and then there is an unmanaged NG

NETGEAR 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch (GS305) - Home Network Hub, Office Ethernet Splitter, Plug-and-Play, Fanless Metal Housing, Desktop or Wall Mount

Can you check on the managed switch to see if IGMP protocols are enabled? if so, DISABLE ALL those features. If you see any Green Ethernet features that you can disable as well, please so so. 

NG GS-105/108v4, D-Link DGS-105/108 and HP ProCurve 1400/1800 series switches work for Orbi systems.

Ok, so interesting results

1) The only thing on the managed switches was IGMP snooping. I turned that off

2) i did get the Orbi satellites to work on wired ethernet backhaul going through the switches once this happened.

3) However, there were some interesting things that started to happen once the satellites were on wired backhaul.  Other wired devices that were previously getting their DHCP address from the comcast router at 10.0.x.x subnet were now being assigned DHCP addresses from the Orbi router i.e. 192.168.1.x. which I found odd. 

4) There was some chaos at one point where Netgear said there a conflict with my ISP provider on IP addresses and changed the orbi to 172.16.x.s subnet

5) I decided i had driven the family suitably crazy and would give the traditional Netgear setup a chance i.e satellites connected via 5GHZ wireless backhaul and router in Router mode for somet time prior to tinkering with ethernet backhaul. So, reset the router, obtaining back the 192.168.x.x address with no conflicts.

6) The performance has been rock solid and really fast.. We don't have Gigabit yet but comcast recently bumped up speeds to 4xx down and the setup with the Orbi is blazingly fast and more importantly, with no security holes i.e WPA2 enabled on both bands and  stable as well

Thank you FURRYe38 , it has been a very interesting journey.

Sunil

Glad you were able to get the RBS to sync correctly after turning off IGMP protocols on the switches. 

Please mark your thread as solved so others will know. 

I would recommend making a backup configuratino to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed. 

Enjoy. :smileywink:

Hi, I faced a similar issue as well. In my case, I'm using RBR750 and RBS750. For some reason, the 5GHZ network security type is None while the 2.4GHZ wifi security is in sync with the Router. I am using DGS-1210-20 managed switch, and I have verified that IGMP snooping has been switched off.

I'm running AP mode for both Router and Satellite. Firmware has been updated to the latest for both:

• V3.2.17.12_1.4.14

Not sure what else am I missing here. Any ideas?

Does the RBS connect and sync correctly when wirelessly connected to the RBR? 

Test the RBS near the RBR after syncing wirelessly first, then connect a LAN patch cable in between the RBR and RBS. Check the sync and status.

How is the RBR connected to the ISP modem/router? WAN or LAN port on the RBR to the ISP modem? 

Seems like the RBS isn't getting an IP address from the ISP Modem correctly or the modem isn't giving an IP address to the RBS. 

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gerald732 wrote:
I can’t seem to sync wirelessly in AP mode. It’s doable if the Router isn’t in AP mode. Since, I cannot run my ISP modem/router in bridge mode, I’ll need to run the Orbi in AP mode.

I’ve tried resetting both the devices to factory setting as well, but to no avail.

Let me try pushing the security settings out with the toggle between wpa3 and wpa2

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FURRYe38 is spot on. Once you put the Router in AP mode, you have to change your ISP internet connection cable from WAN port (yellow)  to one of the other LAN ports.

That was my original setup, although I had jumped straight ethernet backhaul for the sateliites where the satellites were able to sync right away to the Router, each one of them having obtained a DHCP address from the ISP cable model/Router box

I took my Orbi 850 series and put it into AP Mode. I let the RBS850 wirelessly connect first then Ethernet connected them behind the RBR. RBR850 is connected to a NetDuma R2 router.

For a short period, say 5-10 seconds I did see on 1 RBS850s web page reported Security Type as NONE. However after refreshing the page afterwards, the Security Type did change to WPA2/AES. 

One thing I'm curious about, both RBS are reporting Up to 800/2167 for there Wireless Mode. I beleive there supposed to be 1200/2400 on there front haul radios as per the data sheet:

• Orbi AX6000 Router and AX6000 Satellites
(2400 + 2400 + 1200Mbps)†

The RBR is reporting 1147/2400:

Any one else see this on there RBS? 

Ok, this is the same issue as seen on the 7 series. :smileyembarrassed: Will be fixed on next FW update. 

I believe the way your trying to sync your RBS is incorrect. In router or AP mode, RBS is best to sync first in wireless mode. Once they are fully synced and working correctly and status reports correct modes, then connect the Ethernet cable from the RBS to the RBR. The Ethernet cables needs to be connected to the back of the RBR, router or AP mode. 

Just tested this today and this does work. 

I believe the way your trying to sync your RBS is incorrect. In router or AP mode, RBS is best to sync first in wireless mode. Once they are fully synced and working correctly and status reports correct modes, then connect the Ethernet cable from the RBS to the RBR. The Ethernet cables needs to be connected to the back of the RBR, router or AP mode. 

Just tested this today and this does work. 

The thing is, the RBS isn't able to sync with the wireless mode. I have tried to sync them in wireless mode for at least 6 to 7 times while the RBR is in the AP mode. This is with the ethernet cable plugged into the LAN port  of the RBR instead of the WAN port. The RBS always ends up in the Magenta LED state.

So theres your problem. The RBR, in ROUTER or AP mode, requires the WAN port to be connected on the RBR to the modem in router mode or host router when in AP Mode. If your connecting the LAN port on the RBR then the RBS can't get correctly synced or an IP address from the host router when in AP mode. 

https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point

Right, that makes sense now. I'll have a try. I think that's because my assumption was that we typically plug ethernet cables to the LAN port for any APs. Thanks for the advice!