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Smurf_paul
May 26, 2020Aspirant
Orbi RB850 Wifi connected devices get diffrent ip subdomain plex
Ok so I have an interesting problem. The current setup, 2 satelights and the base. The base is in Router mode, connected to a fiber modem/router. The base is connected to a network switch. Th...
Smurf_paul
May 26, 2020Aspirant
The router cant be bridged :( ALL the radios are off on the router, the exposed host is set to the base orbi, along with a static ip.
Everything wired works, perfectly, but any wifi device that wants to talk to a wired connection, goes via the internet port ip.
Which means things like plex, every wifi device it see's as a remote device rather than a local one, but only for the wifi devices connected to the orbi system.
The only connection to the router, is the network cable to the orbi. Everything else is on the orbi side.
FURRYe38
May 26, 2020Guru - Experienced User
That seems odd, if ALL wifi on the modem is OFF fully, and you set up the DMZ or IP passthru on the modem for the RBR. ALL wifi devices connected to the RBR or RBS should be getting a 192.168.1.something address from the RBR and communicating on the RBR side of the network.
Is uPnP disabled on the modem?
I would try this to help narrow this down. Remove the DMZ configuration on the ISP modem and configure the RBR for AP mode. This will set the modem and main host router only and everything will get an IP address from the modem however wired and wireless should connect on the one modem network.
- Smurf_paulMay 26, 2020Aspirant
1st off UPnP is on on the RBK, if i run the RBK in ap mode then the router cpu, max's out. Thats one of the reasons to spend the almost £1000 GDP on the system. So it needs to be in Router mode - we have a LOT of devices (at time of typing 22 devices connected, and the isp router just cant handle that many just being connected), where as the Orbi WiFi 6 System (RBK853) AX6000, handles that many devices with ease.
After a day of testing, I belive I have located the issue. Wifi devices are given a RBK ip, Ethernet devices are given a RBK ip. Ethernet devices that access data on the local lan, are routed correctly, through the switch with the device IP. Eithernet devices that access the internet acess it through the Lan port IP of the RBK.
Here is the problem, wifi devices data is ALWAYS routed through the Lan port ip, even when connecting to a local RBK IP thats on ethernet.
So for example, Iphone remote desktop app, while connected to wifi. Data path, should be, Iphone -> RBK (or RBS to RBK) -> Network Swicth ->PC. The whole path is local side of the RBK, so the PC should see the IP of the phone, but it sees a data route from the LAN port IP.
ANYTHING on eithernet connected to the switch or direct to the RBK eithernet ports works this way. Seeing the IP of the device, when communcating to a local device.
ANYTHING on wifi, has the data routed with the LAN port IP, instead of the Device IP.
I can take a portable wifi router (have it for hotels), hang it anywhere, switch, RBK, RBS eithernet port, and connect the above phone to that, and of course the correct IP are passed to the local device.
Its a problem with the way the System routes, wifi traffic, always to the Lan port IP.
Which means that any Eithernet device, thinks that every wifi device is actually an internet remote device, and not on the local Lan.
- FURRYe38May 26, 2020Guru - Experienced User
First off there maybe uPnP on the host upstream router as well. Having two uPnP functions on the network would not be good.
Not seen my RBR in AP mode with maxed out CPU. Currently running this mode connected to a NG Nighthawk gateway modem.What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
Is the Orbi system operating in Router or AP mode?What is the Mfr and model# of the ethernet switch in the configuration?
- Smurf_paulMay 26, 2020Aspirant
Its the ISP router that max's out the cpu, not the RBK when the RBK is in ap mode. In Router mode, its fine. No UPnP is only on on the RBK.
Currently the firmware of the RBK is V3.2.11.2.
The Switch is a Allied Telesis AT-GS950 24 port gigbit, managed switch, in unmanaged mode. (In testing, removing the switch and just using the Ethernet ports on the RBK and RBS's, the same issue happens (so its not the switch).
The orbi is in Router mode. Which it must stay. Its using the wifi backhaul.
The ISP pos router is actually a Huawei HHG2500.