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schadan
Mar 30, 2023Guide
Orbi RBK850 in AP mode can't connect to satellite
Hi, seems that my problem is not new but I was not able to find a working solution: I'm running a Orbi RBK850 together with two RBS850 in my home network. I've done first the setup of the whole syste...
- Apr 01, 2023
Hi,
the problem is solved 🙂
A simple cause had a big effect - I could see in the pfsense fw logs that outbound icmp was blocked - seems that the RBK is pinging to some cloud front systems regularly to see whether it has an internet connection. After enabling it it worked like a charm, the gui shows internet connection & I was able to sync both satellites.
Now I only have one small (not really urgent) problem left & that is that I'm getting (only on the RBK) a http 500 when connecting to the WebGUI via DNS name in the URL - using the ip address instead is working. But for this I will open another thread.
Thank You very much for Your help, really appreciated 🙂
CrimpOn
Mar 31, 2023Guru - Experienced User
schadan wrote:
some special port openings needed for the RBK?
(Assuming port openings is in reference to the pfSense Firewall.)
Port forwarding pertains only to incoming connections. Any device on the network can open connections to the internet.
If the Orbi is in Access Point (AP) mode, its internal firewall is not enabled. Connections can be made from and to any device on the network (including the pfSense). In addition, Ethernet broadcasts will go to every device on the network. Connections from the internet to internal devices are monitored entirely by pfSense. For example, if a web server on a local device needs to be reached from the internet, then pfSense must forward the appropriate port (usually 80 or 443) to that device IP. Of course, the pfSense Firewall will only receive incoming connections if the Fritzbox has port forwarding rules in place.
If the Orbi is in router mode, then the internal firewall is enabled and rejects all connections from the internet unless a Port Forwarding rule has been enabled by the user. This will make the situation a bit more complicated. i.e.
- The Fritzbox will have to forward the required port to the pfSense IP.
- The pfSense will have to forward the required port to the Orbi router IP
- The Orbi router will have to forward the required port to the internal web server IP.
This can be done. I have deliberately set up three routers in a chain. i.e.
- internet modem to router 1
- router 2 connected to router 1
- router 3 connected to router 2
- user device connected to router 3.
- open a web server on user device
- forward port 80 through router 1 to the IP of router 2
- forward port 80 through router 2 to the IP of router 3
- forward port 80 through router 3 to the IP of the web server.
But, geez. what a complicated mess!
This is why the consensus on the forum is "unless you have zero need for any connections* from the internet to local devices, have only one router in the network."
* This means no need to access anything on the network from the internet:
- No media servers
- No web servers
- No internet game hosts
- No OpenVPN
- do internet search for "Double NAT" for more examples
If this really is the case, then it doesn't matter how many routers there are
schadan
Apr 01, 2023Guide
Hi,
the problem is solved 🙂
A simple cause had a big effect - I could see in the pfsense fw logs that outbound icmp was blocked - seems that the RBK is pinging to some cloud front systems regularly to see whether it has an internet connection. After enabling it it worked like a charm, the gui shows internet connection & I was able to sync both satellites.
Now I only have one small (not really urgent) problem left & that is that I'm getting (only on the RBK) a http 500 when connecting to the WebGUI via DNS name in the URL - using the ip address instead is working. But for this I will open another thread.
Thank You very much for Your help, really appreciated 🙂
- FURRYe38Apr 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Glad you got it working. Be sure to save off a back up configuration to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed.
https://kb.netgear.com/000062080/How-do-I-back-up-the-configuration-settings-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
Enjoy. 📡