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rgautier
Sep 05, 2020Apprentice
Orbi RBR50 DNS - PLEASE ADD DHCP OPTIONS TO SET CLIENTS TO ALT DNS
I have DNS issues with the resolver on the Orbi DNS daemon/resolver - and they are NOT related to DHCP mis-assignment. If I change the DNS manually on the devices to ignore the Orbi DNS resolver, ...
FURRYe38
Sep 05, 2020Guru - Experienced User
What is the mfr and model # of your ISP modem/ONT?
FYI, Most NG routers do not offer any kind of DNS proxy bypass. Been like this for a long time. Something NG seems to keep in place.
IF your seeing DNS issues, lets try to resolve them first and see if there is any further help needed by NG support.
I have a 8 Series Orbi AX, have not seen any DNS issue. I'm on a cable ISP. I dont prefer to use Armor.
- rgautierSep 05, 2020Apprentice
Calling it a 'proxy bypass' makes it sound like forgiving the router provider for not including basic functionality for a DHCP server, which is, providing options for the DHCP assignment. It's not proxy bypass - because the router is not a proxy. It has a lightweight DNS resolver/cacher in it. My hypothesis is that whatever they did with Armor is probably never REALLY turned off, and it's interfering or dying.
I just prefer to NOT use the all-in-one router for a DNS caching server. There are so many better options (pi-hole, for example). I'm probably going to install DHCP server on that server, but it becomes complex with the Guest WiFi addresses (and the router not having a DHCP forwarding option).
Since the DNS problems are randomly occuring (and go away in <5 seconds), they're impoossible to debug, even though they cause havoc with apps on clients.. Even the telnet option to the router has been taken away, so I'm not going to have any capability to REALLY assess what's wrong. My Nighthawk never had these issues - although I don't know that it had any DHCP options, either.
I replaced the Nighthawk with the Orbi, and there's been no changes to the ONT/ISP (FiOS - 100 Gb). I don't use FiOS DNS, though - I point to CloudFlare on both devices (the FiOS router and this one).
- FURRYe38Sep 06, 2020Guru - Experienced User
To be sure that Armor is full disabled, either do a full reboot of the RBR or factory reset the RBR and setup from scratch and don't enable Armor this time after the setup wizard completes.
The only router mfr that I know that supports DNS proxy/relay options that allow users to fully disable or enable it is D-Link. I think Ubiquity might allow this as well though not for sure. Since NG seems to only allow DNS from the routers IP address for DNS, I would say this is a proxy.
Good Luck.
- msinexSep 07, 2020Apprentice
rgautier Having the exact same issues as you are, and have been trying to fix it for months without any success. Link below-
- arlomikeSep 10, 2020ApprenticeWhen I got my 850 last month, I ran into this same issue. NG is too stubborn to allow for their DHCP server to hand out a DNS server you specify and insists that it must use their recursive DNS server. I gave up and setup pihole.