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Orbi RBR750 / AX4200 - Need Desktop App to Manage it
I finally got this darn thing to connect to internet. I had an old Netgear router and used the Genie app on desktop, and it works with Orbi ONLY to a point. Can I use another app, maybe Nightwawk, ...
We all use the web interface. No one can snoop on the http packets that are contained in your LAN.
I don't mind using the web--although I have trouble accessing it on laptop often so it's a PITA--but it says it's NOT secure and that makes me nervous. So please, do tell me what is so secure that nobody can snoop on the LAN packets vs. https connection. If I try this on VPN, I can't connect. One big headache this is, for me anyway.
I don't like that I can't separate which SSID uses 2.5 vs. 5MHz. For instance, I have devices that can only use 2.5, I put those on Ch 6 correlating with SSID1, then I noticed on Wifi Analytics it jumps to Ch 149. Sometimes both SSID1 and SSID2 are on Ch 149. I stopped using the SSID2 for my computer, but that doesn't make a difference. I'm thinking having all these devices on one channel is going to congest the devices I need to keep stable. I'm confused.
I read somewhere you can attached an old router to new one. I did that--WNDR3400v2--but I couldn't figure out how to connect to that.
Granted, maybe I don't know what I'm doing?
RosieA wrote:
I don't mind using the web--although I have trouble accessing it on laptop often so it's a PITA--but it says it's NOT secure and that makes me nervous. So please, do tell me what is so secure that nobody can snoop on the LAN packets vs. https connection. If I try this on VPN, I can't connect.
In my case, the PC I use to administer the Orbi is physically connected to one of the Orbi LAN ports. Any communication between my PC and the Orbi goes through that cable and nowhere else. Suppose instead of the wired PC, I used a laptop connected to the Orbi with WiFi. WiFi transmission is encrypted. Yes, it is technically possible to intercept WiFi signals, learn the encryption key, and decrypt WiFi packets. This requires a sophisticated person to park close enough to capture the 5G WiFi signals long enough to perform the required analysis. If the Mission Impossible team want to hack my Orbi that badly, they would probably just break in. I'm not a bank, a corporation, etc. etc. Non of my neighbors show much technical capability. The basic point is that data within the LAN is not exposed to the internet in any way. Spectrum cannot intercept it. Neither can the NSA. (or the Russians, Chinese, or some teenager in Burbank.)
The solution to restrict web access to https creates yet another irritation. Netgear uses a self-signed SSL certificate, which almost every web browser complains about. UNSAFE. UNSAFE. GO BACK. So, http == not secure. https == not secure.
I have OpenVPN implemented on my Orbi and occasionally VPN into the system and access the Orbi web management over VPN. I always use the actual IP address of the router and the regular http method. I'll put it on my "list of things to do" to VPN into the Orbi and try the secure web portal using the URL rather than IP (https://orbilogin.net)
@ CrimpOn
Thanks for the explanation, esp the self-signed certificate.
I use my laptop to connect to it, I have it LAN connected to the Satellite. I suppose that's the same as directly connected to the Orbi router?
I could NOT for the life of me connect to Opera via their built-in VPN. Just tried it going through the steps noted below and I can now:
Visiting an untrustworthy website has been prevented certificate verification problem detected
Reason: Self-signed certificate View certificate
I understand the risks and wish to continue
Message from my antivirus: Detected connection to an insecure websource: continue?
Have thought of using OpenVPN, worth it vs. others?
