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dan_ro_ga
Dec 04, 2019Tutor
Orbi RBR850 - can't run Amazon Prime Video and IPhone wifi calling fails to send voice
I purchased the latest Orbi from BestBuy, seemed to work fine. But tried to strean Amazon Prime Video, and it fails, on any device (two tv's and ipad). Also found that when making a WIFI call, the pe...
dan_ro_ga
Dec 04, 2019Tutor
Yes, the ATT fiber box is a 2Wire 5268AC, and it is set to DMZ+, which allows the IP to pass back to the Orbi system and all traffic to pass through, so its not double NAT condition.
plemans
Dec 04, 2019Guru - Experienced User
ATT isn't known for making devices that have a well designed passthrough mode. The 2Wire 5268AC particularly not. It still inspects the packets and compares them to a nat table.
I'd try putting the att back in router mode, disable its wifi, and place the orbi in AP mode. You lose some functions of the Orbi router. But with using ATT and that device in particular, it might be your option to avoid the NAT issue.
- dan_ro_gaDec 04, 2019Tutor
The network device previously was a R9000, which after a firmware update would barely get about 20 mb download speed, but an older R7000, would perform in the 100-200 mb range... none of these had an issue with the ATT router. Its not an ATT issue (NAT or otherwise), its an Orbi issue.
As a note, all of my TV's are running a 'wired' connection, so this isn't a WiFi issue, its the Orbi wired connection that can't handle the data. I've tried using the Wifi connection as well, same issue. All of the wired machines in my house show download speeds of 940ish/900ish, so it can let data through.The Satellite is wired (backhaul) as well. And I've tried having not wired, via beaming, and it doesn't matter.
The download, which fails in the orbilogin.com connection, shows an V3.2.8.5 on the satellite, but never shows a new version for the router, just indicates 'update failed'. Neither of them have a newer update on the Netgear download page. The download page shows 3.2.7.2 as the current option there. The Orbi router currently shows V3.2.7.2_1.1.7 on the status page.I've considered putting it in AP mode, and trying things, but why pay this much money for a product that doesn't work. Plus manipulating the ATT router for IP routing/etc is a pain in the arse...
I'll try this firmware (if/when I get it) and see if it fixes the issues. Otherwise, this goes back to Bestbuy for the full refund.- FURRYe38Dec 04, 2019Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP ONT the NG router is connected too? We'd like to know this information. If the ISP router is active, we can try something to see if it helps with getting the operations working. If the ISP router is active you are in a double NAT condition which will be a cause of problems. AP mode would be a good test to try to see if this changed the behavior on what your seeing.
Just be cuase there is a FW upate for the RBS doesn't mean there is one for the RBR. NG maybe working separately on FW updates for each unit and completed FW and testing for the RBS. I would be safe to update the RBS.
I've not seen this kind of behavior with my system nor with any other orbi system. Both of my Orbi systems are online currently and working as expected.
- dan_ro_gaDec 04, 2019Tutor
The ATT Router is a Pace 5268AC. It is in DMZ+ mode, passing through all data. And had no issues with previous Netgear routers (R9000 & R7000)
The Netgear support resources are the ones that told me about the new release, since it is not reflected on their web page. The update was noted to them late in the day yesterday. I know the version of the new update because it is shown/listed on the satellite line, but since it can't download the updates/ you can't install that version. And since its not available on the netgear download page, neither the RBR or the RBS can be downloaded for a manual install.
And please note, I'm running through the Orbi router as I write this, it works in some cases, just doesn't allow Amazon Prime Video to play and doesn't allow the outbound 'voice' from IPhones(you can hear them, they can't hear you). Apple IOS updates also fail to process. There maybe other functions that fail, but only those three have been found so far.
I realize that SOME people aren't having these issues with their equipment. But these two pieces of equipment (Router/Satellite) are having those issues. If this next firmware update fixes these issues, great. The reason for this upgrade was to get the max out of my 1GB fiber connection. And I realize, many folks don't have that high level of input/output either. But if I have to limit the functionality of Orbi 850's to 'make' them work, it defeats the purpose of purchasing this solution.