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Rottikid
Jan 14, 2022Guide
Orbi Router Model #RBR850 WiFi 6 WPA3 Ring cameras, Security System, other Devices can’t connect
When I turn on WPA3 Security and IPV6 my Cameras, Doorbell, FireStick and other devices can't connect to 2.4GHz or 5GHz WiFi. Is there anyway to connect these devices manually to 2.4 and 5G and my de...
- Jan 18, 2022
CrimpOn wrote:
Rottikid wrote:
Is there anyway to tell which devices are connected to 5G and which devices are connected to WiFi 6 AX mode on 5G? Is there a breakout like there is for 2.4G and 5G which tells you which is connected to,what.
An interesting puzzle. 2.4G 802.11b/g/n has maximum data rates:
802.11b - 11mb
802.11g - 54mb
802.11n - 600 (theoretical)
If a 2.4G device is connected at a link rate higher than 54mb, is must be 802.11n (or ax?)
Yes, depends on what the device supports.
Don't forget AC. 80Mhz is 1300Mbps, 160 supports 1733Mpbs
5G 802..11 has similar limits. If the link rate is higher than 866, it must be ax. Actually don't forget AC. 5Ghz AC supports up to 1733Mpbs if 160Mhz is suported on both devices.
The only devices that can be connected with ax must have the capability of ax. That rules out a huge fraction of the devices in most homes.
Not having any myself, I wonder if any devices are capable of displaying ax connection? Depends on there support. Why have some load up WifiSweetSpots app on some mobile devices, can get a ball part speed rate with this app.
Rottikid
Jan 18, 2022Guide
CrimpOn,
The only reason I want to use WPA3 is because it is necessary if I'm going to use WiFi 6. I have quite a few devices that use WiFi 6. My iPhone, iPad, new Ring Pro Doorbell 2, and FireStick.
I figured my WiFi would be faster. I know the new Orbi 9 has WPA2/WPA3. Yes I know it also has WiFi 6E whIch is different than WiFi 6. Just wondering when they will fix the WPA2/WPA3 for the Orbi RBR850. I know it was released but had problems so it was taken down. It's pretty annoying that you can't use WiFi 6 with other devices. It is one of the reasons I bought this router. Hopefully Netgear is working on it. Thanks again for all your help. I'll forward to hearing from you. Have a good night.
Rottikid
CrimpOn
Jan 18, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Rottikid wrote:
The only reason I want to use WPA3 is because it is necessary if I'm going to use WiFi 6.
This is not my understanding. If WPA3 were required any time 802.11ax is enabled, then Netgear would not allow any other choice of security. All of the posts I have seen about the Orbi AX remark that users wish Netgear had provided WPA2/WPA3 mixed security, because the way it is they have to use WPA2 for all their devices that cannot use WPA3. That is, they use (802.11ax) and WPA2.
- RottikidJan 18, 2022Guide
CrimpOn,
the only way to use WiFi 6 is to use WPA3.
6GHzIf you open the Orbi app and go to WiFi settings then go to Security method they offer:None
WPA2-Personal
WPA3-Personal
WPA/WPA2-PersonalAt the very bottom it says:
Note: 6GHz WiFi supports only WPA3
NETGEAR hopefully will have a fix shortly. Thanks again for all your help. Does anyone have Netgear's Corporate phone number or a Number for their Tech dept. The one listed no one answers. Because this is a big deal and as I said it was the reason I purchased their WiFi 6 router. The router is quite expensive and it has been well over 7 months with this problem not being able to use WiFi 6. They said that the Orbi RBR850 was backward compatible and it certainly is not. Thanks again. Hopefully someone will be able to provide me with a working number for their Corporate Offices.
Rottikid- CrimpOnJan 18, 2022Guru - Experienced UserWiFi5 uses the 5Ghz frequency. 6G is WiFi6E
The 850 does not support 6G frequencies (WiFi6E) only the newest product supports 6G frequencies- RottikidJan 18, 2022GuideI am not talking about WiFi6E. I am talking about WiFi 6. Tri-band Mesh WiFi 6 system that requires WPA3 Security Protocol. The RBR850 does support WPA2 /WPA3 which is necessary for WiFi 6 to work with older 2.4 & 5 g You are mistaken. Your talking about Orbi’s 960 series which is Quad Band and WiFi 6E.