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Orbi Router Model #RBR850 WiFi 6 WPA3 Ring cameras, Security System, other Devices can’t connect
When I turn on WPA3 Security and IPV6 my Cameras, Doorbell, FireStick and other devices can't connect to 2.4GHz or 5GHz WiFi. Is there anyway to connect these devices manually to 2.4 and 5G and my de...
CrimpOn wrote:
Rottikid wrote:
Is there anyway to tell which devices are connected to 5G and which devices are connected to WiFi 6 AX mode on 5G? Is there a breakout like there is for 2.4G and 5G which tells you which is connected to,what.
An interesting puzzle. 2.4G 802.11b/g/n has maximum data rates:
802.11b - 11mb
802.11g - 54mb
802.11n - 600 (theoretical)
If a 2.4G device is connected at a link rate higher than 54mb, is must be 802.11n (or ax?)
Yes, depends on what the device supports.
Don't forget AC. 80Mhz is 1300Mbps, 160 supports 1733Mpbs
5G 802..11 has similar limits. If the link rate is higher than 866, it must be ax. Actually don't forget AC. 5Ghz AC supports up to 1733Mpbs if 160Mhz is suported on both devices.
The only devices that can be connected with ax must have the capability of ax. That rules out a huge fraction of the devices in most homes.
Not having any myself, I wonder if any devices are capable of displaying ax connection? Depends on there support. Why have some load up WifiSweetSpots app on some mobile devices, can get a ball part speed rate with this app.
I am not talking about WiFi6E. I am talking about WiFi 6. Tri-band Mesh WiFi 6 system that requires WPA3 Security Protocol. The RBR850 does support WPA2 /WPA3 which is necessary for WiFi 6 to work with older 2.4 & 5 g You are mistaken. Your talking about Orbi’s 960 series which is Quad Band and WiFi 6E.
Ok, Lets get something right here, WiFI6 = AX mode on 5Ghz. Its does NOT require WPA3 whatsoever. AX mode works with WPA2 and AES only. 5Ghz and AX mode as been working with WPA2 and AES for past 3 years. I've been using 5Ghz AX and WPA2 and AES on Orbi 8 series since 2019.
WiFI6E is 6Ghz freqency which also uses AX mode on 6Ghz. This does require WPA3 I believe.
Early ON, Orbi AX system supported mixed mode WPA2 and WPA3. However it was found that there were core problems with the WPA3 handling with devices. So NG removed the MIXED MODE from the Orbi UI. NG left the WPA2 only or WPA3 only settings in the UI. WPA3 still has limited support and use on mostly seen on newer generation supporting devices. NG will need to re-implement Mixed Mode WPA in the UI once the WPA community has fixed the core code and is stable to use in Mixed Mode.
Hopefully NG will at some point as I can attest that with my 9 series Orbi, Mixed Mode is working.
Furrye38,
Thank you so much for all your help. I believe I understand how the Orbi RBR850 Tri-Band works. I guess I'll just wait until Netgear gets it's mixed mode fixed. Is there anyway to tell which devices are connected to 5G and which devices are connected to WiFi 6 AX mode on 5G? Is there a breakout like there is for 2.4G and 5G which tells you which is connected to,what. Thanks again in advance for all your help and patience. Have a Great Night.
RottikidNot really. The RBR or RBS can show which freqency they are connected too. They don't show what wireless mode (G, N, AC or AX) when connected. Generally, most devices will use the highest connection mode that they support between them and the host router.
Rottikid wrote:
Furrye38,
Thank you so much for all your help. I believe I understand how the Orbi RBR850 Tri-Band works. I guess I'll just wait until Netgear gets it's mixed mode fixed. Is there anyway to tell which devices are connected to 5G and which devices are connected to WiFi 6 AX mode on 5G? Is there a breakout like there is for 2.4G and 5G which tells you which is connected to,what. Thanks again in advance for all your help and patience. Have a Great Night.
Rottikid
Rottikid wrote:
Is there anyway to tell which devices are connected to 5G and which devices are connected to WiFi 6 AX mode on 5G? Is there a breakout like there is for 2.4G and 5G which tells you which is connected to,what.
An interesting puzzle. 2.4G 802.11b/g/n has maximum data rates:
802.11b - 11mb
802.11g - 54mb
802.11n - 600 (theoretical)
If a 2.4G device is connected at a link rate higher than 54mb, is must be 802.11n (or ax?)
5G 802..11 has similar limits. If the link rate is higher than 866, it must be ax.
The only devices that can be connected with ax must have the capability of ax. That rules out a huge fraction of the devices in most homes.
Not having any myself, I wonder if any devices are capable of displaying ax connection?
CrimpOn wrote:
Rottikid wrote:
Is there anyway to tell which devices are connected to 5G and which devices are connected to WiFi 6 AX mode on 5G? Is there a breakout like there is for 2.4G and 5G which tells you which is connected to,what.
An interesting puzzle. 2.4G 802.11b/g/n has maximum data rates:
802.11b - 11mb
802.11g - 54mb
802.11n - 600 (theoretical)
If a 2.4G device is connected at a link rate higher than 54mb, is must be 802.11n (or ax?)
Yes, depends on what the device supports.
Don't forget AC. 80Mhz is 1300Mbps, 160 supports 1733Mpbs
5G 802..11 has similar limits. If the link rate is higher than 866, it must be ax. Actually don't forget AC. 5Ghz AC supports up to 1733Mpbs if 160Mhz is suported on both devices.
The only devices that can be connected with ax must have the capability of ax. That rules out a huge fraction of the devices in most homes.
Not having any myself, I wonder if any devices are capable of displaying ax connection? Depends on there support. Why have some load up WifiSweetSpots app on some mobile devices, can get a ball part speed rate with this app.
CrimpOn,
Thanks so much for all your help. I now have a much better understanding about WiFi 6 ax. So basically WiFi 6ax works on the 5G network. I looked at my Orbi network map and My iPhone 11 Pro Max link rate is 864 Mbps, my iPad Pro Max link rate is 1201 Mbps, my iPad Air 2 is 866 Mbps. Very interesting. They are WiFi 6ax. I'm assuming that not many things are WiFi 6E capable and if they were that wound have their own stream a separate lane. So I'm guessing most manufacturers will be releasing more products that are WiFi 6ax now and eventually everything will go to WiFi 6E which will reduce congestion. Have a Great day and thanks again. You all are a great bunch of guys and gals.
