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EchostormFury
Oct 30, 2019Apprentice
Orbi Wifi 6 AX6000 Is a Disaster, Do NOT Buy!
I bought the Orbi Wifi 6 AX6000 kit and got it from Best Buy last week -- it is an absolute disaster! I documented my plight here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu4kB85W78c Cons No backward c...
FURRYe38
Oct 30, 2019Guru - Experienced User
EchostormFury wrote:I bought the Orbi Wifi 6 AX6000 kit and got it from Best Buy last week -- it is an absolute disaster! I documented my plight here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu4kB85W78c
Cons
- No backward compatability with RBS50 satellites - They are if you wire connect the RBS50 to the RBR850.
- No Parental Controls (Circle or otherwise) - There is Access Controls.
- No Netgear Armor (Bitdefender) - This usually comes later on in a FW update.
- No additional satellites available for purchase (anything other than Wifi 6 devices will be slower than ethernet linked to a prior generation satellite)
- No USB for NAS - USB NAS wasn't supported on 1st gen Orbi either. By the looks of it. NG doesn't wan to support USB drives on Orbi.
- Expensive, $700 for 1 router + 1 satellite - The price would be more attrative if they included two RBS instead of one.
- Spartan options in Orbi admin panel - I presume NG will and more as time goes on.
- Netgear Support doesn't even know anything about this product currently and cannot comment of features or lack thereof - They can't until NG desided to implement the features.
Pros
- 5 ethernet ports instead of 4 on router
- Wifi 6 is faster and seems to connect better albeit only to your Wifi 6 devices or satellite with ethernet linked
- EchostormFuryOct 31, 2019Apprentice
The RBS50 to RBR850 wired connection doesn't make any sense as bascially your are what, creating a switch with the satellite and expanding what 4 ethernet ports? That doesn't help anyone's situation at all if they are using the RBS50 as a satellite.
- DoctorAOct 31, 2019Luminary
EchostormFury wrote:The RBS50 to RBR850 wired connection doesn't make any sense as bascially your are what, creating a switch with the satellite and expanding what 4 ethernet ports? That doesn't help anyone's situation at all if they are using the RBS50 as a satellite.
Great suggestion.
I know it is a waste of good wireless backhaul technology. Backhaul channel is capable of delivering bandwidth of up to 2.4Gbps on this new RBK system which is the twice of wired speeds. But what is the alternative?
Consumers like me, who add multiple wifi clients over the years, one day find out that the existing system can't handle the number of devices any more. Plus I need a mesh system. I need a strong WiFi signal at the location where my satellite is now 35 feet away from the router. The wired backhaul method beteen RBS50 to RBR850 gave higher wifi speeds than the wireless backhaul. On I-phone Xs Max I got 600-650 Mbps. With wireless backhaul I got only 400 Mbps on my phone.
Can I use a less expensive Netgear wired Wifi extender at that location and connect to the RBR 850?
Then I will be able to use the "precous" RBS 850 anywhere I need for more coverage in my 3 story home.
Attached is my layout.
- FURRYe38Oct 31, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Ethernet backhaul support is there for users who may have a need to connect RBS past the wifi connection point with the RBR or rather have the RBS work as a wired AP in that kind of configuration. Makes perfect sence to have flexability with RBS connections. I've used my RBS50 in wired ethernet back haul and works fine. NG doesn't support the RBS50 wirelessly connected to the RBK852 currenetly. Hopefully in future udpates they will.
Ethernet will always be more stable than wireless.
Currently the RBS850 cuases problems via eithenet backhaul and xbox gaming. Working with NG on this one.
EchostormFury wrote:The RBS50 to RBR850 wired connection doesn't make any sense as bascially your are what, creating a switch with the satellite and expanding what 4 ethernet ports? That doesn't help anyone's situation at all if they are using the RBS50 as a satellite.
- DoctorAOct 31, 2019Luminary
FURRYe38 wrote:Ethernet backhaul support is there for users who may have a need to connect RBS past the wifi connection point with the RBR or rather have the RBS work as a wired AP in that kind of configuration. Makes perfect sence to have flexability with RBS connections. I've used my RBS50 in wired ethernet back haul and works fine. NG doesn't support the RBS50 wirelessly connected to the RBK852 currenetly. Hopefully in future udpates they will.
Ethernet will always be more stable than wireless.
Thanks to you and others I am using my RBS850 in wired Ethernet back haul and it works fine. Since I can't find another 3rd satellite for sale now what can I use wired to extend the wifi signal from RBS850? I have a long CAT 6 going from the 3rd floor RBS850 to the 1st floor where I need the most for old 2.4GHz wemo switches. I don't have an old RBS50. Can I use an old NG WNDR 4500 router in AP mode?
I was also wondering if RBS 850 wifi signal travels further than RBS50 signal.
Since RBS50 is not working wirelessly with RBK852 system I assume it will not work with the new and only wireless WiFi Range Extender (RBS50Y).
It is ironic that they announced both outdoor (RBS50Y) and RBK852 system the same day but conveniently forgot to mention that they will or will not work together.
They have a lot of work to do.