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campolo313
Jul 30, 2020Apprentice
RBK753S - Xbox Causes Router to Reboot, Occasional Double NAT
Hello, I recently changed from the Orbi RBK53 to the Orbi RBK753S, and now I am having issues with my Xbox kicking all my devices off wifi and causing my whole system to reboot. I am have no issu...
- Aug 17, 2020
FURRYe38 wrote:Do any of your consoles have automatic updates even when turned off? If so, possible the port is being reporting active when this happens.
Yes, both my Xbox are set to "Instant On" and my Switch is also, so I think they are holding the port open once it has been used. But it does look like UPnP is doing it's job and deleting the Port Mapping when another system requests it, it just doesn't delete it when the system Powers Down, so I'm just going to monitor it.
I do have good news as I was able to just play an hour and a half of Breakpoint with the guy that was crashing me, so I am going to mark this thread as solved.
For those looking for help in the future, here is what ended up being my solution:
Upgrading to the latest firmware (V3.2.16.6_1.4.4)
Changing NAT Filter from Secure to Open
This gave all my systems Open NAT and Full Cone NAT.
FURRYe38
Jul 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Does this happen with the wire connected xbox or the wireless connectred xbox?
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update?
I have two xboxes, both wire connected. No Armor or IPv6 enabled. NAT FIlter set to secure. I played last nite for a while on MW also in chat. Haven't see this kind of behavior though I have 850 series system and using v32 FW.
- campolo313Jul 30, 2020Apprentice
This happens with the Xbox One X that is wired to the Router. I am not sure if there's an issue with the other one yet, as that one is used by my kids and they don't typically game online. I can consistently reproduce the router rebooting with the Xbox Party Chat.
I haven't had a Firmware Update since I first set it up since I have only had it for a little under two weeks, so it should have technically came factory setup. I will try to factory reset when I flash to v32, but I'll have to do that over the weekend since I work from home and need my internet and I can't risk the rest of my setup.
One potential difference I am noticing in your setup is that you have your 850 Series as an AP versus mine being a router, not sure if that would make a difference in the outcome.- FURRYe38Jul 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Ya I need to change my sig mode, the RBR is now in router mode, been since v32 came out.
Try your one xbox wirelessly connected to see if the problem still happens. Then try the other xbox with the wired xbox turned OFF and see if the problem continues.
I know that there is 1 problem with NAT FIlter on Orbi since it first came out. I filed a bug report on it. NAT FIlter set to OPEN which should be used for two or more game consoles connected behind a router, it's broke on Orbi AX. Open should report FULL CONE NAT. IT reports Port Address Restricted NAT which is incorrect of that setting. PAR is for SECURE setting. I finally go word that NG fixed it and would push it on next major FW update. I hoped v32 had it but didn't so I presume next FW update will have this fix.
Reason behind using NAT Filter:
- campolo313Jul 30, 2020Apprentice
I have tried wirelessly with the same Xbox One X and it still causes the entire router to reboot.
Oddly enough, when I do happen to get a "Open NAT" on my Xbox, it does show as a Full Cone NAT.
I will double check if shutting down one Xbox works, but I believe I tried that with the Xbox One X and still had issues.