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RBR750 / RBS750 AP MODE NOT ACHIEVING STABLE WIRELESS BACKHAUL
I searched for a solution for this to no avail.
I have tried all firmwares 4.6.3.7 and above.
If i switch to AP mode they never get a stable wireless BACKHAUL.
I have tried varying distances from router from 10 feet to 100 ft.
Anybody has a solution?
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As a general rule, the closer a satellite is to the router, the better the backhaul connection will be.
In practical terms, it makes no sense to locate WiFi access points very close together, because the total coverage area will be not much greater than the router itself.
What Netgear recommends is moving the satellites to locations that provide coverage to the part of the building where coverage is needed.
There are suggestions that "somewhere around 30ft" is a good place to start. If the ring light is blue, indicating a Good signal, then they can be a bit farther apart. If it is amber, that is too far. Of course, satellites need electrical power, so if 30ft happens to be in the middle of a room, that is impractical.
If not totally impossible, 100ft is very unlikely to work.
The 750 product appears to have 'quirks' that I am unfamiliar with. Also in general, once the router and satellites have established a good backhaul connection, changing the router to access point (AP) mode should not have any effect on the backhaul.
That appears to be the issue. Not the actual distance.
I this a robot replying?
Distance is not the issue. I have tried 10 ft, 20 ft, 30, ft, 40 ft, 50 ft, 60 ft, 70 ft, 80 ft, 90 ft, 100ft.
Once it pairs and connects wirelessly correctly, if I switch to AP mode, it stops working.
AP mode is not working for a wireless backhaul.
I monitor the connection via pings, and it seems there is a bug within ORBI wireless backhaul that disconnect itself every 20 or 30 seconds.
The old RBR50 and RBS50 worked perfect on same locations.
But again, locations are not the issue.
How do I get a replacement for something that actually works?
Are you using Dynamic or static IP address configuration on the RBR in AP mode?
Did you first turn OFF the RBS, then configure AP mode, wait for the RBR to connect using it's WAN port to the host router, then after the RBR is FULLY online, turn ON one RBS at a time?
My 7 series working in AP Mode with the RBS wireslessly connected.
CrimpOn Appreciate you trying to help, but I was on the phone with one of your NG colleagues and he actually told me that 30ft is probably too far regardless of whether the ring light is blue. In my case the router is on one floor and the satellites on the 2nd floor of the house. He literally told me this is mostly the cause of a poor speed on the satellites and frequent device disconnections as the signal can't penetrate through the ceiling/floor. This is crazy as most of the houses here in North America are standard wood frame and drywall and that's pretty friendly for wifi signal.
Moreover, everything is far more stable with firmware 3.x with satellites in exactly same position. And yes, I've done reset and reconfigure manually after the firmware upgrade/downgrade. So, I can't understand why Netgear is not acknowledging the issues with v4.x firmware and release a fix once and for all!!! This is crazy **bleep**, pardon my French.
CrimpOn wrote:As a general rule, the closer a satellite is to the router, the better the backhaul connection will be.
In practical terms, it makes no sense to locate WiFi access points very close together, because the total coverage area will be not much greater than the router itself.
What Netgear recommends is moving the satellites to locations that provide coverage to the part of the building where coverage is needed.
There are suggestions that "somewhere around 30ft" is a good place to start. If the ring light is blue, indicating a Good signal, then they can be a bit farther apart. If it is amber, that is too far. Of course, satellites need electrical power, so if 30ft happens to be in the middle of a room, that is impractical.
If not totally impossible, 100ft is very unlikely to work.
The 750 product appears to have 'quirks' that I am unfamiliar with. Also in general, once the router and satellites have established a good backhaul connection, changing the router to access point (AP) mode should not have any effect on the backhaul.
That appears to be the issue. Not the actual distance.
claudiut wrote:
CrimpOn Appreciate you trying to help, but I was on the phone with one of your NG colleagues and he actually told me that 30ft is probably too far regardless of whether the ring light is blue.
Interesting. Really wish I was able to speak to Netgear employees. Would love to hear this guy explain how "Good" is really "not Good". That seems to be logically inconsistent. "Oh, sure. Our product says the backhaul connection is 'good', but you can't believe what our engineers programmed the device to report. It's probably 'not good'." So, how does he propose to know when the backhaul link is actually "good"? Even though Netgear labels some of us as "SuperUsers", we are actually just ordinary customers who came to this forum to solve problems with our Netgear equipment and have the time to help others.
In the older Orbi product that I own, there are a couple of ways to display the signal strength and transmit/receive rates between router and satellite. (using telnet - which the AX series does not support, and using an Excel spreadsheet to make SOAP calls to the router)
My three satellites that are all under 30' from the router report the following:
RBS50 RSSI -68 Transmit/Receive rate 975/975
RBS40V RSSI -64 Transmit/Receive rate 866/866
RBS40V RSSI -62 Transmit/Receive rate 866/866
I feel compelled to point out that these values change by the minute. What was -64 five minutes ago, might be -63 right now. The changes are minor. -64 does not suddenly become -80 or -40.
I also agree that the firmware for the AX product line does not give a positive impression of Netgear engineering.
