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zombywoof
Oct 04, 2024Aspirant
RBR750 ap mode wired backhaul, wan port=internet/no synced sats, lan port=no internet/synced sats
I'm stuck. I have a RBR750 and 2 RBS750 satellites. All are upgraded to firmware V7.2.6.31(_5.0.24). I did a reset on all devices and started out new. First I've set the RBR to AP mode and choose d...
- Oct 04, 2024
Fixed it.đ
I went back to firmware V4.6.14.3_2.3.12, didnt even reset to factory, kept all settings and all problems disappeared.
Now i can connect to the RBR LAN port.
I'm able to ping the RBR perfectly
The RBR sees and syncs the satellites over wired backhaul over multiple switches.
The wireless clients get 500-600 Mbps internet everywhere in the house
Conclusion: the firmwares above V4.6.14.3_2.3.12 destroy AP mode.
CrimpOn
Oct 04, 2024Guru - Experienced User
zombywoof wrote:
This setup did work for 2 years!
There have been several conversations on the forum in the past year about using the Orbi AX product line (750, 850) in Access Point (AP) mode. My observation from these discussions is that the AX product routers are programmed to expect:
- The internet will appear on the WAN port of the router.
- Satellites that are not connected via WiFi will appear on one of the LAN ports of the router.
- Because all of these units have Ethernet switches as an essential component, many devices appear to communicate because of the "layer 2" Ethernet LAN capability. But, the router is not collecting essential information because it is looking at specific ports for specific information (WAN and LAN).
Many of the discussions are a result of the router unit being placed in a location with only one Ethernet cable to a central patch panel or switching location. The previous generation of Orbi products appears to have dealt with a single cable connection differently than the AX products. Thus, what "worked" before no longer works.
The solution is to create the ability to connect the router WAN port to the ISP device (bypassing switches if possible) and one of the LAN ports to the satellites. Method to achieve this include:
- Physically installing another Ethernet cable
- Using smart Ethernet switches to create VLAN to allow the single Ethernet cable to appear separate the WAN and LAN traffic.
One easy way to test is to temporarily connect the router to the ISP device using a separate Ethernet cable. (I got a 100 ft. Cat6 cable from Amazon for under $20.) while using the existing cable connection for the LAN port. If suddenly "it works", then this is the problem.
- zombywoofOct 04, 2024Aspirant
Earlier I already tried connecting the RBR WAN port to the Internetrouter with a direct cable. Didnt help.
The problem is more basic:
If I connect a laptop to a RBR LAN port, i can ping the RBR perfectly
If I connect a laptop to a switch and that switch to a RBR LAN port, pinging the RBR gives 75% time-outs
- zombywoofOct 04, 2024Aspirant
Fixed it.đ
I went back to firmware V4.6.14.3_2.3.12, didnt even reset to factory, kept all settings and all problems disappeared.
Now i can connect to the RBR LAN port.
I'm able to ping the RBR perfectly
The RBR sees and syncs the satellites over wired backhaul over multiple switches.
The wireless clients get 500-600 Mbps internet everywhere in the house
Conclusion: the firmwares above V4.6.14.3_2.3.12 destroy AP mode.
- FURRYe38Oct 04, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Last time I had my 750 series online with RBS had tested AP mode with RBS ethernet connected. All worked. That was on v.21. I'll check my 750 series again while in AP Mode and see whats happening. I see I updated my system back on 4/25 to v.31. Will test AP Mode first and see what I find out.