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hunt68
Dec 20, 2021Aspirant
RBR750 Email Logs
I have an ORBI RBR750, firmware V4.6.5.14 (latest). I have Security setup to send me logs via email every hour. I've been having MS Outlook email issues on my home environment (two laptops, two pho...
hunt68
Dec 22, 2021Aspirant
My RBR750 firmware version is: V4.6.5.14_2.0.54
My ONT is Adtran Fiber 410
My Internet Setup - DNS Address setting I've tried both ways. I get the email send errors either way (automatic or custom IP's provided by the ISP)
Error Codes: There are two Outlook send errors I am getting on my laptop. 95% of the time the error is (0x800CCC0F) : 'The connection to the server was interrupted.' Occassionally within Outlook I will get: (0x800CCC67) : ' The server responded: 421 resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net Excessive failed authentication, ESMTP server temporarily not available'.
-- My RBR750 is setup to send me logs hourly via email. When I can't send email on my laptop, the RBR750 cannot email the log either. The RBR750 log error that appears in this case is: [email failed] resomta-c1p-023269.sys.comcast.net resomta-c1p-023269.sys.comcast.net Excessive failed authentication, ESMTP ser Tuesday, Dec 21,2021 17:00:01.
EFFORTS MADE TO ISOLATE THE PROBLEM:
1. I have tried every possible fix that can be googled under the error codes mentioned above including triple checking my outlook settings, killing my outlook profile and recreating it from scratch, turning off my MS Defender firewall, installing other anit-virus/malware software and checking for problems (found none and removed these other programs), upgrading Orbi and PC firmware including my netBios, resetting the ORBI to factory settings multiple times along with multiple reboots of it, my PC and the ONT, etc. None of this has helped.
2. I have 4 devices that can send email on my home wifi: an iPhone, a Samsung android phone running Samsung Mail app (IMAP), my Dell XPS laptop with Windows 10 running MS Outllook 365 as a POP3 client, wife has Dell XPS with separate email account running same outlook configuration. When an email send error is noticed on one device, it exists on all four devices (i.e., no device can send email regardless of the email account). When the send error corrects itself, all four devices are corrected simultaneously. I.e., they either all work or don't work which I think points to a router problem.
3. On my phone, if I disconnect from wifi, I can successfully send mail through my cellular carrier (Verizon).
4. I can also go onto Comcast's website, log into my email through my browser and send email from there when I can't do so through my outlook client POP3 wifi connection.
5. This problem has been going on for months. It is intermittant meaning that once the send error appears during the day which is usually but not always late morning, it will continue for hours until the problem self-corrects later in the day. Last Saturday I figured out through testing that whatever is blocking emails being sent clears itself at 6:00 pm CST on the nose. I was on my laptop at 5:59 pm and repeatedly pressed the mail sync button and got mail send error after error until at 6:00 pm sharp. At that instant with me doing nothing more than pressing the sync button again, the email that was stuck in my outbox was sent successfully.
6. Also this past weekend I suspected the problem might be outlook in sleep mode. So, I set my PC to never sleep and was careful when I wasn't in outlook to close the application. I would shut-down my PC at night. By strictly following this regimen, I've had no send errors for the past two days which is the first time in months that I've gone 24 hours without having a problem. Then today I slipped, I left my PC powered up but unattended for a couple of hours with Outlook open. I also reactivated "Automatically send/receive every 15 minutes" which I had turned off since Saturday. The PC was not in sleep mode, just wasn't being used with Outlook open and auto send/receive on. When I came back to it the 0x800CCC0F error reoccurred when I tried to send an email. This was 3:30 pm CST. I then disconnected the Orbi router from the ONT and plugged the ONT ethernet connection directly into my laptop, and presto, the email stuck in my inbox was sent successfully. I then reconnected/rebooted the router to the ONT and tried sending an email over wifi and got the 0x800CCC0F again. I repeated this two step process of connecting my PC directly to the ONT and then back through the router via wifi, and in the first case I can send email and in the second I can't. Problem therefore must be with the wifi/router connection.
6. I then got back on my PC at 5:59 pm CST while connected via wifi and starting pressing the mail sync button repeatedly and once again just like this past Saturday right at 6:00 pm CST on the nose whatever was blocking the emails from being sent cleared itself and the email went through. And as is typical, even now two hours later (8:00 pm) I can still send email through wifi (i.e., once the block is cleared, it is usually cleared the rest of the evening).
I greatly appreciate anyone who has read this far and is willing to offer suggestions to troubleshoot this issue! The test today with the direct ethernet connection was telling. That along with all four devices on my network being affected simultaneously (all can send or none can send) leads to me to believe that the problem is with the RBR750.
REF: Two weeks ago I started a separate threat on Comcast Xfinity Support Community thinking the problem was a Comcast issue (https://forums.xfinity.com/conversations/email/cannot-send-email-0x800ccc0f-connection-to-server-interrupted-or-0x800ccc67-esmtp-server-temporarily-not-available-message/61b28270f06968168603033a). At least one user claims he is experiencing the identical issue as me, including having the problem self-correct at 6:00 pm CST.
CrimpOn
Dec 22, 2021Guru
If I am correct 6pm CST would be midnight GMT? An 'interesting' time of day.
I have no personal experience with the 750 series, so any suggestions are just that (suggestions).
How about defining DNS servers in the Windows network properties, which takes Orbi DNS completely out of the picture.
(Suggest 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8)
Does this Orbi have an option on the Advanced Tab, Advanced Settings for Traffic Meter? It serves no useful purpose for most customers. Is it enabled or disabled?
Is there any chance that the Security options of Block Sites and/or Block services have been enabled accidentally?
- hunt68Dec 22, 2021Aspirant
It is interesting that 6:00 pm CST is 12:00 am GMT.
The RBR750 does have Advanced Setting-Advanced-Traffic Meter, but mine is disabled. I have not made any changes to any of the Advanced settings (i.e., all factory default settings). Metered Connections within my Windows Network Profile is also turned OFF.
Under Security-Block Sites and Block Services, both are set to "NEVER" blocking.
Defining DNS Servers in Windows Network Properties: This is an intriguing idea and is something I haven't tried and was completely ignorant of (i.e., I thought I had to use my ISP's DNS servers). I believe FURRYe38 suggested the same thing but again wasn't clear on what was being suggested. I read-up on this morning and I think I now get it. It also appears I can enter these custom DNS server IP's (1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, etc.) either within Windows Network Properties or within my RBR750 Advanced-Setup-Internet Setup-DNS Address settings. Can you help me understand the pluses and minuses of each setting location? Also, if I make this change on my laptop under Network Properties, will it change the DNS Server settings on all of the devices on my wifi network or just wifi traffic from my laptop (I think it is the former but want to make sure).
Secondly, does it make sense that this could be a DNS server issue when you consider that when I am experiencing the send error through my router and then unplug the router and connect my laptop directly to the ONT via ethernet that it then works. I suppose it does, because when I connect directly to the ONT, the ISP DNS server is seeing a different IP address (my laptop's vs. my router's). Does that make sense?
Could I just have a bad Orbi RBR750 (i.e., a lemon)? Have you seen this kind of wierd behavior to find out it was some type of a hardware clitch that required a replacement or do you think this is unlikely?
BTW, my wifi email sending has been working this morning. I shutdown my laptop last night and turned auto send/receive off in Outlook. My hourly Orbit logs were sent successfully throughout the night (the logs were sync'ed/downloaded in a batch this morning to my inbox); however, my Orbi log sent at 7:00 a.m. did fail with the following error (same as before): '[email failed] resomta-h1p-027916.sys.comcast.net resomta-h1p-027916.sys.comcast.net Excessive f Wednesday, Dec 22,2021 07:00:01.' Immediately, after seeing this log send failure, I sent a test email to myself from my outlook client at 7:04 a.m. and it did go through successfully. The next Orbit log at 8:00 a.m. sent successfully. This has happened once before where I would get a random Orbi log email send failure, yet email sending from my laptop would continue to work properly.
I'm going to let things ride for a while today and see what happens with the email send errors. I will be leaving the auto send/receive turned off in outlook so as to eliminate this as a variable. Next in the lineup is try a custom DNS server as suggested.
BTW#2, I am frequently getting "Authentication Failed" errors on ths Netgear Community website (i.e., I will attempt to post a response like this one and sometime they go through and other times I get a "Authentication Failed" response (see attached screen shot). I wonder if this is a related problem?
- CrimpOnDec 22, 2021Guru
Residential routers typically inform devices that they should use the router's IP for DNS queries (through the DHCP process which provides IP address, subnet mask, gateway, etc.) So, changing the router's DNS settings will affect where the Orbi resolves DNS addresses.
Changing DNS settings in the computer itself overrides the DHCP setting and goes directly from the PC to the designated DNS servers.
That authentication error happens to me all the time when I have closed my web browser and first attempt to connect to the community web page. My sense is that my browser has cached something, offers it to the web server, and is rejected. I just click the back arrow, then open the web page again. It also happens on my smartphone. Annoying, but I have not spent any time trying to figure it out.
- FURRYe38Dec 22, 2021Guru
When you see some errors on the NG community page, ether reload the main root page, clear broswer caches and reload the page, clear browser caches, log out, exit the browser then re-open the browser then log back in, or try a different web browser.