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RBR850 - Access Point + wired backhaul & security issues
Hi all, I created a topic earlier, describing my issues when combining the "Access Point modus" with a wired backhaul: https://bit.ly/2zbOgG2 The topic was automatically closed, so I needed to cre...
Dries2 wrote:
Notice the different “Security Type” between the 2.4Ghz signal and the 5Ghz signal.
And this while you are not even able to make different security settings for each of the wifi signals.
I encountered a similar problem when using a wired satellite in AP mode.
Substantially, when after some time the wired RBS850 satellite can no longer synch with the router RBR850, this satellite then operates as a standalone access point, the SSID remains the original one, but for some reasons the original security configuration is lost and the satellite originated wifi network becomes open.
As long as I used the Orbi AX, every couple of days I had to disconnect the wired satellite, reboot all the system and let the satellite synch wirelessly, then connect the cable to the satellite. After about 2 days the wired satellite de-synched again from the router and I had to repeat the procedure.
I eventually had enough of all that and therefore returned the Orbi.
Hi FURRYe38,
* My switch is an unmanaged switch (Cisco SG102-24 Compact 24-Port Gigabit Switch). It has green ethernet features, and I'm aware that this causes issues. That's why I connected both RBR850 en RBS850 directly to my router.
* My router is a Fritz!Box 7590, which is connected to a cable-modem, a CBN CH6643E (provided by the ISP);
Using the 'old' firmware (V3.2.9.2_1.2.4), this worked fine. I just opened this topic to mention that it doesn't work on the new firmware (V3.2.10.11_1.2.12) anymore.
I have indeed downgraded the firmware as a temporary measure. I have also logged the issue at Netgear.
Hi Kildare,
Very recognizable, I also have the issue that my network became open (unsecured). See my original topic here:
If I had the option, I also returned the Orbi. It's just too much money for what you get. I'm sure the hardware is fine, but the firmware has way too little options to deploy as a router (so I use it as AP), and the overall quality of the firmware is low (e.g. the wifi that suddenly becomes unsecure - I logged that early March!).
A relevant problem related the open wifi network originated from the wired satellite is that likely people might not realize that they are actually connected to an unsecured wifi, as the wifi devices (ex. smartphones) still establish the connection to the satellite also if they are configured to use WPA2/etc security, and this without notice!
The only way to verify this situation is connecting to the wired satellite web GUI, or checking for the available networks from the wifi devices, or using a wifi analyzer app.
So the problem might sometimes remain unperceived!
You can't connect the RBS to a router. You have to connect the RBS directly behing the RBR or thru a non managed non green switch behind the RBR serially. It can't be parallel to the RBR. https://kb.netgear.com/000051205/What-is-Ethernet-backhaul-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
For some reason RBR and RBS have specific status data traffic that doesn't get passed thru when connected to a external router. The data flow has to come between the RBR and RBS directly between each other.
Also there is a problem with v10.11 FW in AP mode and using a switch in between the RBR and RBS. The status doesn't report correctly on the RBR for the wired RBS. I made NG aware of this in a bug report already.
So you might want to downgrade back to v3.2.9.2 for AP mode and a switch in the mix or use the current FW version and let the RBS wireeslly connect. That works. Also router mode on the RBR works with RBS ethernet connected with a switch. Whic you could use the RBR in router mode with your ISP modem/router with the option #2 in the following suggestion:
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Dries2 wrote:Hi FURRYe38,
* My switch is an unmanaged switch (Cisco SG102-24 Compact 24-Port Gigabit Switch). It has green ethernet features, and I'm aware that this causes issues. That's why I connected both RBR850 en RBS850 directly to my router.
* My router is a Fritz!Box 7590, which is connected to a cable-modem, a CBN CH6643E (provided by the ISP);Using the 'old' firmware (V3.2.9.2_1.2.4), this worked fine. I just opened this topic to mention that it doesn't work on the new firmware (V3.2.10.11_1.2.12) anymore.
I have indeed downgraded the firmware as a temporary measure. I have also logged the issue at Netgear.
Hi Kildare,
Very recognizable, I also have the issue that my network became open (unsecured). See my original topic here:
If I had the option, I also returned the Orbi. It's just too much money for what you get. I'm sure the hardware is fine, but the firmware has way too little options to deploy as a router (so I use it as AP), and the overall quality of the firmware is low (e.g. the wifi that suddenly becomes unsecure - I logged that early March!).
