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Pariah_Zero
Jan 18, 2024Aspirant
RBR850 + RBS850: Ethernet Backhaul in AP Mode - Horrible Performance or bad connection
Hardware Version RBR850 Firmware Version V7.2.6.21_5.0.20 GUI Language Version V3.0.3.10_2.1.30.3 Operation Mode AP Short version: Even when in AP mode, where the actual routing happens on a di...
- Jan 18, 2024
The Yellow WAN port does and is required to be connected to the UP stream host routers LAN port in AP Mode.
If the RBS are ethernet connected and a LAN switch is used and needed, then this switch needs to be connected behind the RBR on any of the LAN ports in back of the RBR. Then each and any RBS that needs to be ethernet connected, can connect to this switch:
Internet <-> Router (+DHCP +DNS) <-> | - RBR850 (WAN Port Connected to host routers LAN port)
LAN SWITCH connected to RBR850 LAN Port>
| - RBR850 (LAN Port to LAN Switch)
| - RBS850 (LAN Port Connected to LAN switch)
| - Wired Device
| - Wired Device
| - Wired Device
| - Wired Device
FURRYe38
Jan 18, 2024Guru - Experienced User
The Yellow WAN port does and is required to be connected to the UP stream host routers LAN port in AP Mode.
If the RBS are ethernet connected and a LAN switch is used and needed, then this switch needs to be connected behind the RBR on any of the LAN ports in back of the RBR. Then each and any RBS that needs to be ethernet connected, can connect to this switch:
Internet <-> Router (+DHCP +DNS) <-> | - RBR850 (WAN Port Connected to host routers LAN port)
LAN SWITCH connected to RBR850 LAN Port>
| - RBR850 (LAN Port to LAN Switch)
| - RBS850 (LAN Port Connected to LAN switch)
| - Wired Device
| - Wired Device
| - Wired Device
| - Wired Device
- Pariah_ZeroJan 18, 2024Aspirant
So, if I understand you correctly, then, the RBS850 expects to have all internet traffic flow through it, so "AP Mode" is still acting as a router, but with DHCP, NAT, and other functionality disabled.
For example, if I have 5G internet service coming in from the router, and the rest of my network is 10G ethernet (and it is), then effectively, the RBS850 will restrict the wired bandwidth down to 1G, because that's what the LAN ports support?
That is the last thing I want to do.- FURRYe38Jan 18, 2024Guru - Experienced User
There is no routing while in AP mode with the RBR. All routing is done at the host router level. RBR and RBS only pass thru traffic while in AP mode.
Ya, the LAN ports are limited to the 1Gb. If you need more then that, then you may need to have a separate 10 Gb segment switch of the main host router and have the RBR in ap mode on a 1Gb switch for use with the RBS connected as mentioned. You'll never see 10Gb with the 850 series.
- Pariah_ZeroJan 18, 2024Aspirant
Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your time and expertise.
I know there's no way to get 10G speeds out of the RBR850 - it's only got 2.5G on the WAN port and 1G on the LAN ports.I was hoping it was flexible enough to handle both both the backhaul and incoming network on the same port, but that's not the case.
So, for anybody else reading in the future: I'll have to run another cable, so that the RBR850 will have:
- One 2.5G connection from the RBR 850's WAN port (done) to my network closet / 2.5G switch for normal network traffic.
- One Gigabit (or better cable) from the RBR850's LAN port to my network closet for the gigabit ethernet backhaul.
And the RBS850 will (still) have:
- One Gigabit (or better) cable from the RBS850 (Satellite) to my network closet for the gigabit ethernet backhaul.
And I'll need to connect the two ethernet backhaul cables using either a switch, or maybe even a crossover patch cable.