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rr20552
Feb 20, 2022Apprentice
RBR850 RTS / CTS
I’ve been doing some research around RTS / CTS. It would appear that the current size parameters of RTS/CTS are based around the older WEP encryption standard. Below are the different possible m...
FURRYe38
Feb 21, 2022Guru - Experienced User
I've only seen a reboot problem once on my 7 series however that was with older version of v4 FW. I've always left my Orbis with default CTS values to see how the system and my devices should work with defaut out of the box settings. I only did change the CTS value to max one time while in v3 FW due to troubleshooting NEST controller low battery issues back then. Since v4 has been out, I have not change CTS from 64. Haven't seen any issues since. We are tracking one issue with Whats App and voice calls seem to be problematic on v5 FW. Other then that, been fairl stable. I may need to revisit the Whats app problem and see if CTS maybe involved any.
TC_in_Montana
Feb 21, 2022Virtuoso
I usually change my CTS/RTS settings to max (2347) as soon as I get a new NG device. Then, I watch the router statistics closely for a few days/weeks to see if there are any collisions. While I have a fair number of connected devices (35), the majority of them are low traffic devices and I have never had an issue with any collisions so 2347 works fine with me.
From what I've read regarding CTS/RTS settings, as long as you are not getting any collisions, 2347 (basically CTS/RTS OFF) is fine. If you start getting collisions, then you need to adjust.
I have also seen on several places that with such a low value as is set by NG when their Orbi devices are delivered, that you may end up with a latency issue.
I am not a user of ZOOM or other videocall type of software except on very rare occasions. I've not had any drop/reconnect, but then again, I do not have a great number of calls to refer to.
- CrimpOnFeb 21, 2022Guru - Experienced User
The issue of default RTS value is somewhat of a puzzle to me. I read comments on the forum that Netgear delivers products with the RTS value set to 64, but mine is 2347 and I have no memory of ever changing it. As a check, I just now did a factory reset on an RBR50 and the RTS value came up 2347. Perhaps some Netgear WiFi routers come set to 64 and others come set up 2347?
Further, when I search for "RTS default value", hits come up from Cisco, Linksys, and other vendors stating that the default value is 2347. Articles about "What is the best RTS value?" typically zero in on somewhere in the 500 range after going through a long discussion of the pros and cons of larger vs. smaller RTS values.
- CrimpOnFeb 21, 2022Guru - Experienced User
FURRYe38 wrote:
CTS and RTS values are only changed to 64 on Orib AX systems. Orbi AC didn't change this by default. It's only seen on Orbi AX systems.
Guess it's time to research RTS and 802.11ax........ (or not) Surely this would not be the result of some engineer saying, "hmmmm. 64 is a cool number. I'll set that as the default." and nobody ever looking at that part of the code again.
- TC_in_MontanaFeb 21, 2022Virtuoso
CrimpOn wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:CTS and RTS values are only changed to 64 on Orib AX systems. Orbi AC didn't change this by default. It's only seen on Orbi AX systems.
Guess it's time to research RTS and 802.11ax........ (or not) Surely this would not be the result of some engineer saying, "hmmmm. 64 is a cool number. I'll set that as the default." and nobody ever looking at that part of the code again.
I think I asked that question of a NG engineer several years ago.
The reply was that they used that in THEIR testing environment because of the large numbers of devices in play.
- FURRYe38Feb 21, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Well seems to be the norm now for Orbi AX systems. May never know the real reason why they defaulted it only on Orbi AX systems. Even on RAX CTS is still at 2347. Maybe NG found it works better on Orbi AX systems and all the complexities of MESH, I presume anything may help where it counts.