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nothnagc
Dec 07, 2022Aspirant
RBR850 Unable to Obtain IP Address after rebooting Obri - unable to reconnect to SSID after restart
RBR850 Unable to Obtain IP Address after rebooting / restarting Obri - Unable to reconnect to SSID after reboot / factory reset. Hello, I was having some trouble with my download speeds throu...
michaelkenward
Dec 07, 2022Guru - Experienced User
nothnagc wrote:
RBR850 Unable to Obtain IP Address after rebooting / restarting Obri - Unable to reconnect to SSID after reboot / factory reset.
What do you mean by "Unable to Obtain IP Address"?
What happens?
What firmware version do you have on the device?
A number is more useful than "the latest". (It may not be by the time people read this.) There can also be newer versions, or "hot fixes", that do not show up if you check for new firmware in the browser interface.
It might also help if you told people what the modem is in front of this router, if there is one. The make and model number could be useful. Is it, by any chance, also a router, with a set of LAN ports on the back?
The reason for asking is that a lot of people turn up here trying to put a router behind a modem that is also a router. That can complicate troubleshooting.
While many questions about routers are generic and could be answered anywhere, some things need specialist knowledge.
You might get more help, and find earlier questions and answers specific to your device, in the appropriate section for your hardware. That's probably here:
Orbi AX - NETGEAR Communities
You might like to search there for messages related to your problem.
nothnagc
Dec 07, 2022Aspirant
Hello,
The "Unable to Obtain IP Address" is the error that is displayed on the Samsung phone when attempting to connect to the production SSID. The current firmware of the Orbi is listed at the bottom of my original message ... 4.6.9.11.
The "modem" in front of the Orbi is a fiber to the door solution ... there is no model # on the fiber to ethernet converter but all it does is supply an IP to the router. A router is required for the fiber solution to work. The device cannot provide those services
This all happened after a simple reboot of the Orbi. I've read many other posts describing this same situation but no solutions. When certain devices attempt to connect to the SSID after reboot / factory refresh they are not able to connect. Either they say they were not able to obtain an IP address (both the hardwired PS5 and the Android Samsung give this error) or they simply do not connect. Is there a way to tell what is happen in the logs or something else that I might not be familiar with short of running a Wireshark on it?
Thanks!
- nothnagcDec 07, 2022Aspirant
Hello,
The "Unable to Obtain IP Address" is the error that is displayed on the Samsung phone when attempting to connect to the production SSID. The current firmware of the Orbi is listed at the bottom of my original message ... 4.6.9.11.
The "modem" in front of the Orbi is a fiber to the door solution ... there is no model # on the fiber to ethernet converter but all it does is supply an IP to the router. A router is required for the fiber solution to work. The device cannot provide those services
This all happened after a simple reboot of the Orbi. I've read many other posts describing this same situation but no solutions. When certain devices attempt to connect to the SSID after reboot / factory refresh they are not able to connect. Either they say they were not able to obtain an IP address (both the hardwired PS5 and the Android Samsung give this error) or they simply do not connect. Is there a way to tell what is happen in the logs or something else that I might not be familiar with short of running a Wireshark on it?
To answer the questions from the other persons post:
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft? 2,900 SQ
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS - 55 ft️What channels are you using? Auto?
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? No- FURRYe38Dec 07, 2022Guru - Experienced User
nothnagc wrote:
Hello,
To answer the questions from the other persons post:
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft? 2,900 SQ
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS - 55 ftHow many RBS do you have deployed? one or two?
️What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1 on 2.4Ghz and 40 channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? NoRecommend setting the default DHCP IP address pool range to the following after applying and a factory reset: 192.168.#.100 to 192.168.#.200
Also try and use the Forget this Network feature on the phone, then try to reconnect to the Orbi system.
- nothnagcDec 08, 2022Aspirant
Issue Resolved (root cause still unknown)
Here are the steps that resolved the issue.
1. Changed the DHCP scopes starting address to 192.168.1.100 (was 192.168.1.2)
2. Changed the DHCP scopes starting address back to 192.168.1.2
3. Problem clients were all able to re-attach to the default SSID (Devices Online jumped from 65 to 79)
Furrye38, after reading your message I decided to try the DHCP change that you suggested. After the initial configuration update to the DHCP scope there was no change. Several clients, wired and wireless, were still receiving the "Unable to Obtain IP Address" or "Failed to Obtain IP Address" or no error at all, they just could not connect to the default SSID since the initial reboot of the router. Since the update to the DHCP scope didn't work, I decided to revert the DHCP settings back to their original configuration. After this change, all of the troubled clients suddenly re-connected. The Devices Online jumped from 65 to 79. I'm not sure what the problem was but reconfiguring the DHCP service a couple of times did the trick. Maybe stopping and starting the service for the change did it, I'm just not sure.
Thanks for the suggestions and the help!
- michaelkenwardDec 07, 2022Guru - Experienced User
nothnagc wrote:
The "Unable to Obtain IP Address" is the error that is displayed on the Samsung phone when attempting to connect to the production SSID.
I assume that "production SSID" is the default on on the router's label.
Is it just the Samsung that has problems? Which model?
Did you tell the phone to forget that it ever connected to the router's wifi?
What about other wifi clients?
You say:
"When certain devices attempt to connect to the SSID after reboot / factory refresh they are not able to connect."
That could mean that other devices don't have this problem.
Samsung has joined the iOS club and now plays around with MAC addresses for wifi.
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- nothnagcDec 07, 2022Aspirant
"I assume that "production SSID" is the default on the router's label."
Yes, the production SSID is the default (non-guest) SSID.
"Is it just the Samsung that has problems? Which model?"
No, the Samsung S21+ is not the only devices that has this issue. The wired PS5 is not able to obtain an IP address from the Orbi, as well as a few iPhones and a wireless laptop. If you take any of these devices and attempt to connect them to the guest SSID, they connect and pull an address without an issue. If you then attempt to move them back to the default SSID, they are unable to join and experience the same error. I did try multiple times to have each of these devices "forget" the network, and they do. After telling them to "Forget" they prompt for the SSID's password again and then fail.
In response to:
"When certain devices attempt to connect to the SSID after reboot / factory refresh they are not able to connect." "That could mean that other devices don't have this problem."
Yes, this is true. Some other devices reconnect to the same SSID without an issue. Other laptops, the Xbox had no issue reconnecting after reboot.
It seems like it might be DHCP related? .. I don't know if maybe the Orbi thinks these failing devices already have an address, so it won't give them a new one?