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FURRYe38
Jan 07, 2022Guru - Experienced User
New - RBR850 / RBS850 Firmware Version v4.6.7.5 Released
No Release Notes at this time. I'll see if I can get some.
Download Link:
https://ntgr.my.salesforce.com/sfc/p/#300000000xsV/a/8b000000saFy/gnaaQgriSv_NWgvrN.dvn786cl4eG45R2.62LEI3edU
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FURRYe38
Feb 08, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Ok that explains some. If your ISP modem is in router mode, this maybe a double NAT condition.
Have you put the RBRs IP address it gets from the ISP modem in to the modems DMZ or IP-passthru feature?
What is the brand and model# of this ISP modem?
cdp1276 wrote:
Which modem? As I siad the orbi is in router mode as I want that to be my home control point (50 devices connected). The xfinity is just my gateway enabled ISP, wifi is turned off and it is not in bridge mode.
cdp1276
Feb 08, 2022Star
FURRYe38 wrote:Ok that explains some. If your ISP modem is in router mode, this maybe a double NAT condition.
Have you put the RBRs IP address it gets from the ISP modem in to the modems DMZ or IP-passthru feature?What is the brand and model# of this ISP modem?
cdp1276 wrote:Which modem? As I siad the orbi is in router mode as I want that to be my home control point (50 devices connected). The xfinity is just my gateway enabled ISP, wifi is turned off and it is not in bridge mode.
The xfinity ISP gateway is:
Model: CGM4331COMProduct Type: XB7
I have not put the RBR's IP address into the DMZ or pass-thru. Not sure why that is needed and can't be managed automatically as they will change. Can you clarify that?
- FURRYe38Feb 08, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Posting there her for reference that mine is in Router mode and I don't see any memory creep though its only been a couple of days.
Basic Information
Firmware Version: V4.6.7.5_2.1.7
dumaos: v3.0.410
seal: v2.1.5.21-0
seal_services: v2.1.5.9-0
armor-bd: v2.2.100.3
spc-circle: v3.25.0.2
CPU Load: 11.22%
Memory Usage(Used/Total): 337 MB/874 MB
System Uptime: 2 days 23:13:23
I'll be putting my 8 series in AP mode and then monitor for creep.
- FURRYe38Feb 08, 2022Guru - Experienced User
This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NATThis could also lead to seeing problems if you have the RBR in router mode with the ISP modem/router.
cdp1276 wrote:
cdp1276 wrote:
Which modem? As I siad the orbi is in router mode as I want that to be my home control point (50 devices connected). The xfinity is just my gateway enabled ISP, wifi is turned off and it is not in bridge mode.
The xfinity ISP gateway is:
Model: CGM4331COMProduct Type: XB7I have not put the RBR's IP address into the DMZ or pass-thru. Not sure why that is needed and can't be managed automatically as they will change. Can you clarify that?
- FURRYe38Feb 08, 2022Guru - Experienced User
OK, Orbi 8 series in AP mode behind a CAX80 Gateway modem in router mode with it's wifi turned OFF.
I have two networked switch segments connected to the back of the RBR.
Both RBS are ethernet connected via NG GS 105/108 series LAN switches in betwen the RBR and RBS.
RBRs WAN port is connected at 2.5Gb speed to the CAX80s multi-Gig LAN port.
Basic Information
Firmware Version: V4.6.7.5_2.1.7dumaos: v3.0.410
seal: v2.1.5.21-0
seal_services: v2.1.5.9-0
armor-bd: v2.2.100.3
spc-circle: v
CPU Load: 18.13%
Memory Usage(Used/Total): 303 MB/874 MB
System Uptime: 0 days 00:28:43
WIll let this run for a few days and check on the usage here and there.
- cdp1276Feb 08, 2022Star
FURRYe38 wrote:This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NATThis could also lead to seeing problems if you have the RBR in router mode with the ISP modem/router.
cdp1276 wrote:cdp1276 wrote:
Which modem? As I siad the orbi is in router mode as I want that to be my home control point (50 devices connected). The xfinity is just my gateway enabled ISP, wifi is turned off and it is not in bridge mode.
The xfinity ISP gateway is:
Model: CGM4331COMProduct Type: XB7I have not put the RBR's IP address into the DMZ or pass-thru. Not sure why that is needed and can't be managed automatically as they will change. Can you clarify that?
I'm not having any network issues in the house and performance is good. I tried putting the ISP xfinity XB7 in bridge mode and the orbi lost internet connection. This is likely as I have a TRENDnet 5-Port Unmanaged 2.5G Switch that I use to increase # of 2.5 GB feeds to orbi and other computers that can take advantage of them given XB7 only has 1 port of 2.5 GB. So not sure I want to put orbi in AP mode or further make change that wont benefit me.
- FURRYe38Feb 08, 2022Guru - Experienced User
cdp1276 wrote:
I'm not having any network issues in the house and performance is good. I tried putting the ISP xfinity XB7 in bridge mode and the orbi lost internet connection. You have to power OFF both modem and RBR after you bridge the modem for 1 minute then back ON with the mdoem, then the RBR to make the modem connect to the RBR. This is likely as I have a TRENDnet 5-Port Unmanaged 2.5G Switch that I use to increase # of 2.5 GB feeds to orbi and other computers that can take advantage of them given XB7 only has 1 port of 2.5 GB. Ya, after you bridge the modem, move the switch to after the RBR when the modem is bridged and the RBR is in router mode.Wondering if this configuration your using is causing memory creep for your system....
So not sure I want to put orbi in AP mode or further make change that wont benefit me. Up to you. - FURRYe38Feb 08, 2022Guru - Experienced UserNOTICE TO ALL:
Please do NOT attempt to downgrade your Orbi systems from this version of FW back to v4.6.3.16 or anything older.
Were seeing some users post that there systems are not functional or not working right at all after they downgrade using normal downgrade proceedures.If you system is not work right after updating FW, post here in the forums and we'll try to help you out and troubleshot the problems.
Leave the FW version on the system as is.
I"ve passed this on to NG for review and information.
Thank you.
- FURRYe38Feb 09, 2022Guru - Experienced User
So updating this as I seem to be noticing memory creep:
This morning before I left I checked and it was at 309Mb up from 303Mb when this first got online.
Checking just a few minutes ago the RBR is now at 319Mb.
Orbi 8 series in AP mode is operating normally and not seeing any problems so far.
Wireless Cameras and NEST Thermostat controls are online.
Will continue to monitor.
FURRYe38 wrote:
OK, Orbi 8 series in AP mode behind a CAX80 Gateway modem in router mode with it's wifi turned OFF.
I have two networked switch segments connected to the back of the RBR.
Both RBS are ethernet connected via NG GS 105/108 series LAN switches in betwen the RBR and RBS.
RBRs WAN port is connected at 2.5Gb speed to the CAX80s multi-Gig LAN port.
Basic Information
Firmware Version: V4.6.7.5_2.1.7dumaos: v3.0.410
seal: v2.1.5.21-0
seal_services: v2.1.5.9-0
armor-bd: v2.2.100.3
spc-circle: v
CPU Load: 18.13%
Memory Usage(Used/Total): 303 MB/874 MB
System Uptime: 0 days 00:28:43
WIll let this run for a few days and check on the usage here and there.