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FURRYe38
Sep 15, 2021Guru - Experienced User
New RBR750 / RBS750 Firmware Version 4.6.3.16 Released
Security Fixes:
Fixes security vulnerabilities.
For more information about security vulnerabilities, visit https://www.netgear.com/about/security.
Bug Fixes:
Fixes the issue where the s...
FURRYe38
Sep 24, 2021Guru - Experienced User
So lets be clear if your seeing 169 on your devices, these are NOT coming from the RBR. These ARE device SELF assigned IP address. This means that the devices failed to conenct TO the system due to either not connecting to wireless or wired correctly or there is a problem with the service on your Orbi. 169 IP address NEVER come from ANY Router whatsoever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apipa
Only thing I would do is manually re-download the RBR and RBS v16 FW files and manually apply them to the RBS first then RBR lastly. Factory reset and setup from scratch. Id leave OFF the RBS for now. After the RBR is setup. Set up a new IP address block range of 192.168.1.100 to .200 on the RBR.
GIve a SSID name and for a quick test, don't set WPA2. Disable WPA for meantime. See if any if your wifi devices connect that are seeing this 169 IP address. Do any of them connection while in the OPEN? Check for 192 or 169 IPs.
Then re-eanble WPA2 and AES. Check again for wifi devices and IP addressing.
IF any of this fails seems like your system needs to be returned to place of purchace and find something else.
TSpoonEars wrote:
Rebooting the router has no effect. I get the same situation. I can give fixed IP addresses to some devices on the network but not most of the IOT devices, there’s simply not that option. I can literally watch the attached devices page update as certain devices get a 192.168 IP and then go to no IP address assigned with the 169.254 address. Even those I told the Orbi to give a fixed address to. It sees them, but with a 169.254 address. Why wouldn’t it assign them a proper address if it can see them?! It’s quite strange. I spent hours on this tonight. I went back to my old Gryphon which I used to have problems with and that just worked. I simply don’t have time to troubleshoot for hours like this - this needs to work as I work from home most days and it was working for a year until the FW that added parental controls got pushed. I guess I know now not to recommend the Orbi to all my tech friends since Netgear screwed it up with this forced update. (Note, I don’t recommend Gryphon either for several reasons - I suspect I’ll end up going to Ubiquity as at least they sell commercial WiFi)
TSpoonEars
Sep 24, 2021Star
The Orbi was showing the devices in the attached devices list with an IP address of 169.254.xxx.xxx I understand they are self assigned addresses but if the Orbi can see them and show them in it’s list of devices it should assign them a proper IP address! The list then morphs randomly as devices attach and disconnect. The DHCP server is simply broken in this firmware, certainly with 50 devices like I have on my network.
I did run the setup from scratch and it did exactly the same thing. I simply don’t have time to do any more troubleshooting. I’ve spent hours on this already and it’s eating into my real job time. I should be sending Netgear an invoice for my time!
I did run the setup from scratch and it did exactly the same thing. I simply don’t have time to do any more troubleshooting. I’ve spent hours on this already and it’s eating into my real job time. I should be sending Netgear an invoice for my time!
- FURRYe38Sep 24, 2021Guru - Experienced User
FInd something else.
Good Luck. - TSpoonEarsSep 24, 2021StarThanks, I’m going to have to unfortunately. I’m quite disappointed because everything was working great and I even paid for the parental controls as they were quite useful to limit my son’s iPad time.
- raven_auSep 25, 2021Virtuoso
TSpoonEars wrote:
The Orbi was showing the devices in the attached devices list with an IP address of 169.254.xxx.xxx I understand they are self assigned addresses but if the Orbi can see them and show them in it’s list of devices it should assign them a proper IP address! The list then morphs randomly as devices attach and disconnect. The DHCP server is simply broken in this firmware, certainly with 50 devices like I have on my network.What I saw on my system after reboot was the number of devices grow to between 40 and 50 and then devices would start to disappear and it would slowly make its way down to around 20 to 25 and no new devices would be able to get an IP address.
I don't understand why your saying if the devices is connected to WiFI (or ethernet) the router should be able to assign them IP addresses, that is the job of the DHCP server (which has probably crashed) which has stopped giving out IP addresses!
- raven_auSep 25, 2021Virtuoso
TSpoonEars wrote:
Thanks, I’m going to have to unfortunately. I’m quite disappointed because everything was working great and I even paid for the parental controls as they were quite useful to limit my son’s iPad time.The reason I wanted to get the Orbi myself is for the enhanced Security and the Parental Controls. The Orbi app (needed for this) is quite poor for the security side of things although it seems to have improved a little lately, and is actually quite good for the Parental Controls.
For me, with the DHCP server on my NAS and the .16 firmware the diconnects (while still occuring) are almost gone, the satelite random reboot has gone away and the device distribution over router and satelites is not too bad.
Up time is over 12 days.