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FURRYe38
Sep 17, 2021Guru - Experienced User
New RBR850 / RBS850 Firmware Version 4.6.3.16 Released
Security Fixes:
Fixes security vulnerabilities.
For more information about security vulnerabilities, visit https://www.netgear.com/about/security.
Bug Fixes:
Fixes the issue where the s...
FURRYe38
Dec 21, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Try this?
I'm on day 3 so far with no issues seen...yet.
xory72 wrote:
Well ... it lasted 11 days - 2 hours since my factory reset, (power down ONT, RBR850 & RBS850 etc)
Reset steps performed below were;
1.Confiormed V4.6.3.16_2.0.51 was running prior to powering everything off
2. Powered for ONT, RBR850 & RBS850 and stayed powered off for 10 min
3. Powered up ONT waited until all was connected
4. Powered up RBR850 waited until connected
5. Powered up RBS850 waited until connected
6. Reconfigured all settings from scratch in ORBI
After doing the above this is a longest the ORBI lasted without a "No Internet" disconnect however this is still not aacetable and NetGear NEEDS to get this fixed. I am getting to the piont that I would rather reinstall my much slower Zyxcel router and have a reliable "stay connected" status at all times untuil Netgear gets this fixed with an official release ... for eveyone.
This is so so so disapointing in so many ways. Why a fix taking so long to releases when you can clearly see that this an issue for many users? Does anyone have insight on when there will be a release for a fix? Why does Netgear not respond to any of these posts to keep us upated?
xory72
Dec 21, 2021Star
Try this?
I'm on day 3 so far with no issues seen...yet.
Hmmm ... OK. What did you do with your RBS(s) Do you leave them at V4.6.3.16?
Where did this update come from?
Also, hard reset again and reconfigure from scratch again?
- FURRYe38Dec 21, 2021Guru - Experienced User
xory72 wrote:
Try this?
I'm on day 3 so far with no issues seen...yet.
Hmmm ... OK. What did you do with your RBS(s) Do you leave them at V4.6.3.16? YES
Where did this update come from? NG
Also, hard reset again and reconfigure from scratch again? YES, I didn't reset the RBS, just the RBR. - FURRYe38Dec 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
tjtrimble wrote:
I am taking the plunge with the V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 firmware. So far so good....both my wired satellites are now showing up in the mobile app and web interface. PROGRESS! :-) Hopefully the random disconnects will now cease. Keep us posted. Mines been good up to this point.
- skeeloDec 22, 2021Luminary
Ironically after another month with no issues, I woke up to my RBR on the fritz again. Just in time to try the new firmware.
Started with factory resetting my satellites (3) then headed to my RBR to factory reset that, too. Interestingly, after rebooting the satellites the RBR started working without issue and has been for nearly an hour. I had to reboot the RBR once to get the network map to update as it was still recognizing the other 3 factory reset satellites as on and connected with devices attached but after the reboot the network map read correctly as only the RBR active, I removed the other 3 satellites from the router tools attached device list.
So, I loaded firmware V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 on the RBR. Take note, unlike other firmware updates where there is a notification and progress bar after clicking upload, with this firmware there is nothing or at least there was nothing when I uploaded. If it were not for the flashing white ring on my RBR I would not have known anything was happening.
I am going to reboot the RBR one more time then get to the tedious task of adding the satellites back. The silver lining in all of this is I did not have to reboot EVERYTHING which saves me from renaming 40+ devices on the network, I at least learned this time an copied the device list from Access Control...
Considering the series of events with my reboot, I wonder if the connectivity issues is being driven by th satellite/ RBR connection? Regardless, I hope this firmware update fixes the issue once and for all.
- FURRYe38Dec 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
I used MS Edge and also didn't notice a progress bar loading on top of v16.
I turned OFF my RBS and loaded the FW, factory reset using the ERASE button and setup from scratch. Wanted to be sure I had a good fresh installation and clear out any v16 lingering code.
I powered on RBS 1 at at time to let them wirelessly re-sync. They connected successfully. Both are now ethernet connected and working.
Still up and running 4 days now.
skeelo wrote:
Ironically after another month with no issues, I woke up to my RBR on the fritz again. Just in time to try the new firmware.
Started with factory resetting my satellites (3) then headed to my RBR to factory reset that, too. Interestingly, after rebooting the satellites the RBR started working without issue and has been for nearly an hour. I had to reboot the RBR once to get the network map to update as it was still recognizing the other 3 factory reset satellites as on and connected with devices attached but after the reboot the network map read correctly as only the RBR active, I removed the other 3 satellites from the router tools attached device list.
So, I loaded firmware V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 on the RBR. Take note, unlike other firmware updates where there is a notification and progress bar after clicking upload, with this firmware there is nothing or at least there was nothing when I uploaded. If it were not for the flashing white ring on my RBR I would not have known anything was happening.
I am going to reboot the RBR one more time then get to the tedious task of adding the satellites back. The silver lining in all of this is I did not have to reboot EVERYTHING which saves me from renaming 40+ devices on the network, I at least learned this time an copied the device list from Access Control...
Considering the series of events with my reboot, I wonder if the connectivity issues is being driven by th satellite/ RBR connection? Regardless, I hope this firmware update fixes the issue once and for all.
- skeeloDec 22, 2021Luminary
FURRYe38 wrote:I turned OFF my RBS and loaded the FW, factory reset using the ERASE button and setup from scratch. Wanted to be sure I had a good fresh installation and clear out any v16 lingering code.
Makes sense. After 2 complete reboots in the prior months and the time it takes to get everything up and running from scratch, I will roll the dice this time with the firmware update over v16 instead of from scratch.
Here is hoping this corrects this issue. I am hopeful it took long to release this new firmware because they QC'd the hell out of it!
- skeeloDec 22, 2021Luminary
Not being a jerk - suggest you read the 9 pages of this thread to come up to speed.
Not at all a NG fanboi and certainly expressed my share of frustrations. Appears there was a complete QA miss with v4.6.3.16 which led to lots of expressed frustration from users, appropriately so given the connectivity of life and investment into these sytems. Additional frustrations due to incredible lack of communication from anyone at NG until recently (if you could call a post by an admin 8 pages in looking for beta testers communication) and because the "fix" (v4.6.5.14) took a long time to develop and it's still not technically deployed.
My hope is the delay in deploying 4.6.5.14 is because NG learned their lesson and extensively QA'd... time will tell.
- FURRYe38Dec 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Human Condition? Humans are not perfect.
Yashur21 wrote:
FURRYe38 wrote:
Netgear.
Have you tried this yet?
Yashur21 wrote:
Like many here. You appear to have none of these. May I ask where you bought your orbi. Thanks
Why does Netgear release updates only to have it cause so much problems?
- FURRYe38Dec 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
I don't have the reasons why there are so many problems. I don't work for NG. They only know whats going on behind the scenes. I can only help troubleshoot and help make suggestions from personal experiences.
- FURRYe38Dec 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Check the green check marks next to posts.
- FURRYe38Dec 26, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Basic Information
Firmware Version: V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4
seal: v2.0.25-0
CPU Load: 9.69%
Memory Usage(Used/Total): 331 MB/874 MB
System Uptime: 8 days 01:30:57
Still running well. And no NEST Controller Low Battery issues either.
skeelo wrote:Not at all a NG fanboi and certainly expressed my share of frustrations. Appears there was a complete QA miss with v4.6.3.16 which led to lots of expressed frustration from users, appropriately so given the connectivity of life and investment into these sytems. Additional frustrations due to incredible lack of communication from anyone at NG until recently (if you could call a post by an admin 8 pages in looking for beta testers communication) and because the "fix" (v4.6.5.14) took a long time to develop and it's still not technically deployed.My hope is the delay in deploying 4.6.5.14 is because NG learned their lesson and extensively QA'd... time will tell.
skeelo - xory72Dec 27, 2021Star
Well murphy law happened ... with 5 hours or leaving the house for the holidays the Orbi disconnects!!! So frustrating.
I will be back at my house on Wednesday Dec 29 and will take the plunge with the V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 firmware like you guys have done. I just did nto have time to mees with it before I had to leave. From the sounds of things, it has been stable for 8+ days now for FURRY.
I will post when I get the V4.6.5.14 installed and also post with updates along the way.
tjtrimble wrote:@FURRYe38 :)
I am taking the plunge with the V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 firmware. So far so good....both my wired satellites are now showing up in the mobile app and web interface. PROGRESS! :-) Hopefully the random disconnects will now cease.
- xory72Dec 28, 2021Star
Yashur21 wrote:
xory72 wrote:Well murphy law happened ... with 5 hours or leaving the house for the holidays the Orbi disconnects!!! So frustrating.
I will be back at my house on Wednesday Dec 29 and will take the plunge with the V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 firmware like you guys have done. I just did nto have time to mees with it before I had to leave. From the sounds of things, it has been stable for 8+ days now for FURRY.
I will post when I get the V4.6.5.14 installed and also post with updates along the way.
tjtrimble wrote:@FURRYe38 :)
I am taking the plunge with the V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 firmware. So far so good....both my wired satellites are now showing up in the mobile app and web interface. PROGRESS! :-) Hopefully the random disconnects will now cease.
That's too bad
many have reported problems with V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4.
NG needs to come up with damn fix already! We all spend decent moeny for the Orbi .. and we get this crap! Netgear ... Man up and response to us with some clarity. Or do you justnot care? If V4.6.5.14 does not fix my drop outs ... I will have to start searching for another router and sell the Orbi and let it be somoene elses problem.
- sanvaraDec 28, 2021Initiate
I've been using the .16 firmware for a couple months and not a single issue or disconnect with gig fiber connection. I wonder why some people have disconnects and others do not. I did a factory reset before upgrading.
- izmeDec 28, 2021Star
Isanvara wrote:I've been using the .16 firmware for a couple months and not a single issue or disconnect with gig fiber connection. I wonder why some people have disconnects and others do not. I did a factory reset before upgrading.
I'm using the V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4 for like a week now and I do think am running more stable, I see much less, maybe no outages at all anymore. Some extra things I did that might make a difference:
- Turn sattelite off that was within 30 ft (and wired), now running on 1 router and 1 sattelite (how big are your houses, really :-o)
- Sattelite is wired to the router
- Router hard reset after the update
- Satellites hard reset (long time ago when the upgrade to .16 first occured) - they are now still at .16
- RafSDec 28, 2021Apprentice
I wonder if that's the solution, to reset BEFORE doing the upgrade. I had issues with the last two firmwares and finally had enough and exchanged my Orbi for a new one at Best Buy since I had a protection plan on it which was about to expire. Before I set anything up, I upgraded the satellite to 4.6.3.16, then the router, and then I finally set everything back up from scratch and everything has been running smooth for the last 6 days. The Orbis are in the same exact spots they were in originally and working like they were when I first got them back in Jan. 2020. The final straw for me was the backhaul kept failing and saying it was out of sync and like I said, the position of the satellite hasn't changed for close to 2 years. Hopefully everything stays stable like it has been but I won't be jumping on firmware updates like I normally do and wait to see how they effect others before taking the plunge this time and will reset the Orbi before doing any upgrades, even though it takes a little longer.
- GoldenRetroGameDec 28, 2021Apprentice
I decided to give the 4.6.5.14 firmware a shot this weekend. I started with a full reset, flashed the new firmware and then a full reset again. I then manually configured the system, rebooted, unplugged the base and satelite for 10min and then started the whole system one last time.
Everything worked fine for about a day, then the disconnects started happening again. This firmware is definitely not the fix we've been waiting for. Back to using my AIMesh system.
- elayton28Dec 28, 2021Apprentice
RafS wrote:I wonder if that's the solution, to reset BEFORE doing the upgrade. I had issues with the last two firmwares and finally had enough and exchanged my Orbi for a new one at Best Buy since I had a protection plan on it which was about to expire. Before I set anything up, I upgraded the satellite to 4.6.3.16, then the router, and then I finally set everything back up from scratch and everything has been running smooth for the last 6 days. The Orbis are in the same exact spots they were in originally and working like they were when I first got them back in Jan. 2020. The final straw for me was the backhaul kept failing and saying it was out of sync and like I said, the position of the satellite hasn't changed for close to 2 years. Hopefully everything stays stable like it has been but I won't be jumping on firmware updates like I normally do and wait to see how they effect others before taking the plunge this time and will reset the Orbi before doing any upgrades, even though it takes a little longer.
How is this possible when NG auto updates the FW when they see fit? How would I know to reset BEFORE they force a new FW on me?
- FURRYe38Dec 28, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Please try the newer v4.5 version.
It's only for the RBR. Turn OFF the RBS.
I recommend a factory reset on the RBR and setup from scratch. Use same SSID name and PW as used before. Set up the RBR first, then I was able to turn on one RBS at a time and let them wirelessly sync. They synced with out having to press any buttons. If your don't you can of course thry the sync button process. I'd get both synced fully and make sure they report GOOD status. Then turn OFF and place in remote locations.Mines been online for 10 days straight:
Basic Information
Firmware Version: V4.6.5.14_2.0.54T4seal: v2.0.25-0
CPU Load: 9.74%
Memory Usage(Used/Total): 327 MB/874 MB
System Uptime: 10 days 01:14:32
xory72 wrote:
NG needs to come up with damn fix already! We all spend decent moeny for the Orbi .. and we get this crap! Netgear ... Man up and response to us with some clarity. Or do you justnot care? If V4.6.5.14 does not fix my drop outs ... I will have to start searching for another router and sell the Orbi and let it be somoene elses problem.
- FURRYe38Dec 28, 2021Guru - Experienced User
I'm having good stable operation with v4.6.5.14:
RBS turned OFF prior to updating the RBR. RBR factory reset and setup from scratch after updating to v14.After the RBR was setup, CTS left at default 64, Transmit power set to 50%, manual channel 1 and 40. No Armor. Traffic Meter enabled and No Limit. Time Zone set and DTS enabled. Turned ON the RBS 1 at time and let them sync fully. Then placed back in remote locations. RBS are connected via ethernet backhaul.
Been online and stable for the past 10 days.
RafS wrote:
I wonder if that's the solution, to reset BEFORE doing the upgrade. I had issues with the last two firmwares and finally had enough and exchanged my Orbi for a new one at Best Buy since I had a protection plan on it which was about to expire. Before I set anything up, I upgraded the satellite to 4.6.3.16, then the router, and then I finally set everything back up from scratch and everything has been running smooth for the last 6 days. The Orbis are in the same exact spots they were in originally and working like they were when I first got them back in Jan. 2020. The final straw for me was the backhaul kept failing and saying it was out of sync and like I said, the position of the satellite hasn't changed for close to 2 years. Hopefully everything stays stable like it has been but I won't be jumping on firmware updates like I normally do and wait to see how they effect others before taking the plunge this time and will reset the Orbi before doing any upgrades, even though it takes a little longer.
- skeeloDec 29, 2021Luminary
Based on my last reboot/ FW install experience I am beginning to wonder if the issues are driven by the satellites and not the RBR. Additionally, I wonder if the number of satellites is driving issues for some users and not others or if wired vs. wireless satellites are driving issues.
I have three satellites, two are wired and one is wireless. I noticed my RBR started working after factory resetting all of my satellites. It continued to work without issue for over an hour before I was able to get around to loading the new FW. I did not factory reset the RBR before installing the latest FW version, but I did reboot it before and after the FW install and have had no issues since. Fingers crossed.
- KMDonlonDec 29, 2021VirtuosoWhere are folks getting a hold of this firmware version v4.6.5.14?
- skeeloDec 29, 2021Luminary
KMDonlon wrote:
Where are folks getting a hold of this firmware version v4.6.5.14?This link was in a post on page 9 IIRC.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBK852-4-6-3-16-broken-Solved/m-p/2174967/highlight/true#...