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MeGrimlock
Mar 10, 2020Apprentice
RBR850 Frequent Disconnects Starting March 9th AM EST
Yesterday 3/9, starting at about 6AM EST, my Orbi system is disconnecting my Nest Cameras and Thermostat and my work laptop every 10-20 mins or so. I have about 20 devices connected to my mesh syste...
d1mmy
Mar 10, 2020Apprentice
I'm also having issues on my wired connection with intermittent outages. See my "upload" on my most recent speed test. This was done on a desktop wired via Ethernet directly to my RBR850: https://imgur.com/I2bW57Mhttps://imgur.com/I2bW57M I'm not sure whether this is my internet connection, router(s), or both. I'm going to look into rolling back the firmware when I get a chance.
DoctorA
Mar 11, 2020Luminary
My wired desktop is also having connection problems now after the latest firmware
- FURRYe38Mar 11, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Only 1 desktop wired or do others as well?
What kind of problems are you seeing?
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update?
Be sure that CTS and RTS values are changed to 2347 under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
DoctorA wrote:My wired desktop is also having connection problems now after the latest firmware
- PoolradMar 11, 2020Star
I'm having the same problems as everyone else here, tried all the troubleshooting and still disconnects. This couldn't have happened at a worse time since my company went to a work from home model and my VPN drops every 5-10 minutes!
Please get this fixed ASAP.
- cruisencodeMar 11, 2020Apprentice
Poolrad wrote:I'm having the same problems as everyone else here, tried all the troubleshooting and still disconnects. This couldn't have happened at a worse time since my company went to a work from home model and my VPN drops every 5-10 minutes!
Please get this fixed ASAP.
Agreed! My wife works from home, but she doesn't need a VPN. However, our Ooma Telo keeps dropping her phone calls because of this.
- FURRYe38Mar 11, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Be sure that CTS and RTS values are changed to 2347 under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
Please contact Christian_R
He's now working with those of you effected by this FW update.
Thank you.
Poolrad wrote:
I'm having the same problems as everyone else here, tried all the troubleshooting and still disconnects. This couldn't have happened at a worse time since my company went to a work from home model and my VPN drops every 5-10 minutes!
Please get this fixed ASAP.
- FURRYe38Mar 11, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Have you tried putting your Ooma device into the RBRs DMZ by chance to see if this help any?
Be sure that CTS and RTS values are changed to 2347 under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
cruisencode wrote:
Agreed! My wife works from home, but she doesn't need a VPN. However, our Ooma Telo keeps dropping her phone calls because of this. - cruisencodeMar 11, 2020Apprentice
I just put the Ooma's IP into the "Default DMZ Server" field under the WAN Setup. We'll see what happens.
- PoolradMar 11, 2020Star
Yep did that, also sent Christian a PM with my info and offered to email him my logs that I captured while debugging this while it's been happening. Waiting on a response.
- FURRYe38Mar 11, 2020Guru - Experienced User
:smileywink:
- xnolightxMar 12, 2020Star
While on the phone with a level 2 NG tech yesterday we reverted my firmware back to 3.1.5.23. We initially had just set the RBR850 to AP mode, but out of curiosity I went ahead and put it back to full router mode. That has completely eliminated dropped connections and I'm not experiencing any issues.
What ever was broken in 3.2.11 seems to have also been broken in 3.2.9.2. I wasn't keeping up with the firmware version numbers that my RBR850 had installed prior to having 3.2.11 but it seems it was not 3.2.9.2.
I hope this helps!
- cruisencodeMar 12, 2020Apprentice
xnolightx wrote:While on the phone with a level 2 NG tech yesterday we reverted my firmware back to 3.1.5.23. We initially had just set the RBR850 to AP mode, but out of curiosity I went ahead and put it back to full router mode. That has completely eliminated dropped connections and I'm not experiencing any issues.
What ever was broken in 3.2.11 seems to have also been broken in 3.2.9.2. I wasn't keeping up with the firmware version numbers that my RBR850 had installed prior to having 3.2.11 but it seems it was not 3.2.9.2.
I hope this helps!
I had 3.2.9.2 before 3.2.10.11, and it worked fine. I have not tried downgrading yet, though.
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Thanks for letting us know. Hopefully this will help get those users systems back to stable while NG works on this.
xnolightx wrote:While on the phone with a level 2 NG tech yesterday we reverted my firmware back to 3.1.5.23. We initially had just set the RBR850 to AP mode, but out of curiosity I went ahead and put it back to full router mode. That has completely eliminated dropped connections and I'm not experiencing any issues.
What ever was broken in 3.2.11 seems to have also been broken in 3.2.9.2. I wasn't keeping up with the firmware version numbers that my RBR850 had installed prior to having 3.2.11 but it seems it was not 3.2.9.2.
I hope this helps!
- MeGrimlockMar 12, 2020Apprentice
Thanks for the info - i'll try this as well and see if it fixes my drops.
Fingers crossed!
xnolightx wrote:While on the phone with a level 2 NG tech yesterday we reverted my firmware back to 3.1.5.23. We initially had just set the RBR850 to AP mode, but out of curiosity I went ahead and put it back to full router mode. That has completely eliminated dropped connections and I'm not experiencing any issues.
What ever was broken in 3.2.11 seems to have also been broken in 3.2.9.2. I wasn't keeping up with the firmware version numbers that my RBR850 had installed prior to having 3.2.11 but it seems it was not 3.2.9.2.
I hope this helps!
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Let us know how it turns out.
- DBVMar 12, 2020Apprentice
I am also having dropout issues, which are really disrupting working from home. NG needs to do an updated firmware to fix this asap. This just started happening, as before this was rock solid. NG if you reading please issue a new firmware and fix now. Too many people working from home to have these issues.
I ended up hardwiring to my router and have not issues, so definitely wireless router issue.
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Be sure to check your CTS and RTS values. If they are at 64, please change both to 2347. Reboot both RBR and wireless devices.
DBV wrote:I am also having dropout issues, which are really disrupting working from home. NG needs to do an updated firmware to fix this asap. This just started happening, as before this was rock solid. NG if you reading please issue a new firmware and fix now. Too many people working from home to have these issues.
I ended up hardwiring to my router and have not issues, so definitely wireless router issue.
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Hey, an idea I had, after you downgraded to v3.1.5.23, what happens if you re-applied v3.2.9.2?
If you can check this out.
Of course, I hope that the RBR would not go out and re-download v10.11. Not sure if it would do this. :smileyfrustrated:
xnolightx wrote:While on the phone with a level 2 NG tech yesterday we reverted my firmware back to 3.1.5.23. We initially had just set the RBR850 to AP mode, but out of curiosity I went ahead and put it back to full router mode. That has completely eliminated dropped connections and I'm not experiencing any issues.
What ever was broken in 3.2.11 seems to have also been broken in 3.2.9.2. I wasn't keeping up with the firmware version numbers that my RBR850 had installed prior to having 3.2.11 but it seems it was not 3.2.9.2.
I hope this helps!
- DBVMar 12, 2020Apprentice
Yes - tried that too and still having issues. Not sure what do to now.
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
Try a factory reset on the RBR and setup from scratch. Be sure to change the CTS and RTS values again after the reset. Be sure to reboot yorur ISP modem or power IT off for 30 seconds, then back ON, Do this during the reset of the RBR.
If this still fails for you, You might try v3.1.5.23 on your RBR
DBV wrote:Yes - tried that too and still having issues. Not sure what do to now.
- DBVMar 12, 2020Apprentice
Thanks - have people that have done a factory rest have no issues then?
FURRYe38 wrote:Try a factory reset on the RBR and setup from scratch. Be sure to change the CTS and RTS values again after the reset. Be sure to reboot yorur ISP modem or power IT off for 30 seconds, then back ON, Do this during the reset of the RBR.
If this still fails for you, You might try v3.1.5.23 on your RBR
DBV wrote:Yes - tried that too and still having issues. Not sure what do to now.
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
If this still fails for you, You might try v3.1.5.23 on your RBR.
- PoolradMar 12, 2020Star
I've tried everthing possible and still no luck, I'm running a business from home and can't deal with this anymore. I'm way past my ability to return my orbi so I'm out $700 spent on it, I just ordered a velop wifi 6 system that will come in tomorrow. Very disappointed in Netgear, shameful you broke my ability to connect and at the absolute worst time while having to work from home with the virus. You should have immediately flashed everyone back to a prior working firmware, your inability to act is causing more and more frustration and ill will.
- FURRYe38Mar 12, 2020Guru - Experienced User
You might try v3.1.5.23 on your RBR. xnolightx mentioned his returned to stable operation.
Or use your prior router as your main host router and configure the RBR for AP mode.
Be sure to check your CTS and RTS values. If they are at 64, please change both to 2347. Reboot both RBR and wireless devices.
If this still fails, Please contact the forum moderator if your having problems with the lastest version of FW:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/ORBI-RBR850-frequent-disconnects-to-WoW-server/m-p/1871943/highlight/true#M1693
Poolrad wrote:I've tried everthing possible and still no luck, I'm running a business from home and can't deal with this anymore. I'm way past my ability to return my orbi so I'm out $700 spent on it, I just ordered a velop wifi 6 system that will come in tomorrow. Very disappointed in Netgear, shameful you broke my ability to connect and at the absolute worst time while having to work from home with the virus. You should have immediately flashed everyone back to a prior working firmware, your inability to act is causing more and more frustration and ill will.
- DBVMar 12, 2020Apprentice
Poolrad wrote:I've tried everthing possible and still no luck, I'm running a business from home and can't deal with this anymore. I'm way past my ability to return my orbi so I'm out $700 spent on it, I just ordered a velop wifi 6 system that will come in tomorrow. Very disappointed in Netgear, shameful you broke my ability to connect and at the absolute worst time while having to work from home with the virus. You should have immediately flashed everyone back to a prior working firmware, your inability to act is causing more and more frustration and ill will.
That is what I am afraid of. I really don't have time to do all types of troubleshooting for it not to work. Netgear needs to issue an immediate firmware fix now or offer to refund the money I spent on this, since I am past the return point and I will be the Velop system too.
- xnolightxMar 12, 2020Star
Reverting to 3.1.5.23 worked great until the device suddenly decided to update the firmware again. SMH!!!
Google to the rescue. I managed to find the instructions for telnet on a community forum here. For those of you who are interested:
To get back to 3.1.5.23 I had to do the following:
1) Log into the satellite's administration page directly (via the satellite's IP address) and click on firmware update. Load the 3.1.5.23 firmware version.
2) Log into the RBR (main unit) and click on Administration\Firmware update. Load the 3.1.5.23 version on the RBR (main unit).
3) Once everything has restarted, log into the main router's debug page (192.168.1.1/debug.htm) and click the enable Telnet button.
4) On a windows pc open a command prompt. Type telnet 192.168.1.1
5) Once a telnet session is established type:
5.1 nvram set auto_update_enable=0
5.2 nvram commit
5.3 exit
6) On the debug page disable telnet.
You will be on 3.1.5.23 and your Orbi will no longer automatically reach out for firmware updates.
- PoolradMar 12, 2020Star
I gave up, tech line couldn't give any ETA. Christian couldn't give any details in my PM chats and I see no communication from Netgear anywhere on this issue. So I decided my business and my time is more important than beta testing their product, I'll move to a more stable solution.