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DaveEdmonds
Nov 17, 2022Guide
Smart Plugs and The Orbi Router
Regardless of all the Orbi Fan Boys this system does not play well with many 2.4ghz smart plugs, security cameras and anything else limited to 2.4ghz. The ONLY way I have been able to utilize my 2.4g...
FURRYe38
Nov 18, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Might also help to know what Orbi system you have?
What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and 📡 satellite(s)?
Most of the problems are the IoTs responsibility and fault. They don't realize that there limited development on 2.4Ghz software applications should work on devices that are dual band and that both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz are on the same network. Mobile devices prefer 5Ghz always over 2.4Ghz. Wouldn't or shouldn't be that hard for the IoT mfrs too include this with in there setup software. 🙄
DaveEdmonds
Nov 18, 2022Guide
I've gone over this earlier but will post it again. And in addition there are plugs I have that work perfectly fine from the same manufacturer (Kasa) but different models. One is Kasa power strip and the other is a regular size Kasa plug. It has been the mini style plugs that will not connect unless isolated to a dedicated 2.4ghz connection.
There are two satellites in addition to the main so for a total of three in a 2600sq ft. single story home so coverage should not be an issue. As a matter of fact the Apple Airport I am using as dedicated 2.4ghz connection is farthest away from everything and the mini plugs connect just fine to it through many walls.
The satellites are spaced evenly through the home with one even in the garage I would guess no more then fifty feet apart with signal strengths reported by iStumbler as high. BTW I used to be a tech support and IT manager for Apple before I retired so I am not clueless.
The Orbi router info:
Firmware Version V4.6.9.11_2.3.5 |
- Model RBR850, 2 year old Arris cable modem that I own, XFinity 1GB cable connection none of which should be an issue and not sure why that's asked.
- We can on and on forever but logically looking at all the posts on this board regarding connection issues it is not uncommon. I have things working for now but that doesn't make it o.k. for all the various compatibility issues.
- The other components that would not connect were a Brinks security camera and a Brinks doorbell camera, They both required a dedicated separate 2.4ghz connection.
- FURRYe38Nov 18, 2022Guru - Experienced User
DaveEdmonds wrote:
I've gone over this earlier but will post it again. And in addition there are plugs I have that work perfectly fine from the same manufacturer (Kasa) but different models. One is Kasa power strip and the other is a regular size Kasa plug. It has been the mini style plugs that will not connect unless isolated to a dedicated 2.4ghz connection.
There are two satellites in addition to the main so for a total of three in a 2600sq ft. single story home so coverage should not be an issue. As a matter of fact the Apple Airport I am using as dedicated 2.4ghz connection is farthest away from everything and the mini plugs connect just fine to it through many walls.
< For that size of home, two RBS would be too much wifi. You should try during OFF one RBS. Possible that there is too much signals and the device are confused and don't know how to handle all that. I'd even turn OFF both RBS. Reduce the power on the RBR 5Ghz to 25% then walk your setup mobile device out a ways to see if it will connect to the 2.4Ghz single long enough for you to get the devices connected to the system.
Another suggestion is to use a separate 2.4Ghz wifi router using same SSID name and PW to get the devices connected, once the devices are connected, just turn OFF this 2.4Ghz wifi router and the devices will auto migrate and connect to the Orbi system. I had to do this with two wifi Bulbs I bought. learned that the setup app would detect thru my mobile app with the wifi being in smart connect mode. Again this is a limitation of the IoT mfr set up software.
The satellites are spaced evenly through the home with one even in the garage I would guess no more then fifty feet apart with signal strengths reported by iStumbler as high. BTW I used to be a tech support and IT manager for Apple before I retired so I am not clueless.
The Orbi router info:
Firmware Version
V4.6.9.11_2.3.5- Model RBR850, 2 year old Arris cable modem that I own, XFinity 1GB cable connection none of which should be an issue and not sure why that's asked. <What is the model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
- We can on and on forever but logically looking at all the posts on this board regarding connection issues it is not uncommon. I have things working for now but that doesn't make it o.k. for all the various compatibility issues.
- The other components that would not connect were a Brinks security camera and a Brinks doorbell camera, They both required a dedicated separate 2.4ghz connection. <See the suggestion of using a 2.4Ghz wifi router to get them connected above.
If you want separation of 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz, NGs Orbi 9 series now has a dedicated IoT network section that you can set 2.4Ghz only for those devices that won't connect normally. Something not seen on 7 or 8 series systems and I would guess something that NG would not put in. Were still waiting on Mixed Mode WPA2 and WPA3. 🙄
- CrimpOnNov 18, 2022Guru - Experienced User
DaveEdmonds wrote:
It has been the mini style plugs that will not connect unless isolated to a dedicated 2.4ghz connection.
Will need a specific model number. I have KASA
- HS103
- HS105
- KP400
- EP40
all connected immediately while my phone was on the 5G WiFi. No work-around of any kind.