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NotITGuy
Oct 07, 2023Aspirant
Trying to confirm if Client Isolation is supported on VLAN - ORBI 960 System
Hello, I have a shared house with tenants and I want to setup a new mesh system that has client isolation on the main network (not just the guest network). I've asked NetGear "live chat" support and...
FURRYe38
Oct 07, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Isolation IS supported on guest network only as mentioned already.
For any ethernet connecttions, one could install a wireless bridge connected ot the guest network at the remote guest location and use it for it's ethernet connetions to the guest network where the wireless bridge could be connected too.
- CrimpOnOct 07, 2023Guru - Experienced User
A WiFi Extender or a WiFi bridge just might work. As access points, they will not assign IP addresses to individual devices (WiFi and Ethernet) that are connected at the tenant location, but their hardware might allow devices to connect with each other.
When I just now connected to the Guest WiFi on an Orbi RBR750, it assigned an IP address of 192.168.2.5 to my laptop and an IP subnet of 255.255.255.0. This would tend to imply that my laptop should be able to communication with any device on the Guest WiFi IP subnet. However, I also connected a tablet to the same Guest WiFi, being assigned 192.168.2.2. When I tried to ping the tablet from the laptop, it failed with "destination unreachable" from the router.
Thus, it is pretty clear that the router enforces LAN isolation on devices connected directly to the Guest WiFi even though the IP subnet would ordinarily allow them to communicate.
"Might" comes into play when devices are both connected to a network device (such as a WiFi extender or WiFi bridge) that is itself connected to the Orbi WiFi Guest network. Perhaps the hardware/software built into this device will maintain its own ARP table and recognize that both devices are connected to it and that communication between them have no need to pass through the Orbi system at all. I can test this hypothesis, but that requires digging though my "Box of Stuff" to find a WiFi Extender.
- NotITGuyOct 09, 2023Aspirant
Thank you so much for the detailed response. The Orbi PRO version supports isolation on the VLANS and I think the cost is comparable, but it might be more complicated to set up.
My tenant only needs access to Internet. So, I'm not worried about providing an ethernet service for any users on the network - including me.
I do have another two questions:
1. I'm thinking everyone (including me) will use the Guest wifi network, this way everyone is isolated. We do not need ethernet as no devices are shared. In this case, are there any Internet speed restrictions, or will the router automatically allocate the guest network all the available bandwidth since no users are on the main network?
2. If I setup the Netgear subscription service to prevent hackers, does it still cover instrusions from the Internet into the guest network?
I need to decide if I will go with the Orbi Pro or the 960. Besides prices, the main difference I see with the 960 is coverage. I think client isolation is a good feature, I would expect it would be standard.
Thank you again for taking the time to review and respond.
- CrimpOnOct 09, 2023Guru - Experienced User
There are many Orbi Pro models. Which are you considering?
The most obvious difference between the residential 960 product and existing Orbi Pro models is support for WiFi6E.
From comments on the forum, there appear to be users who actually own products supporting WiFi6E. (I do not.)
I also do not see mention of add-on services such as Smart Parental Controls (SPC) and Bitdefender Armor in the Orbi Pro product description. I have never activated these services and have no opinion on how much value they add.
It is hard (for me) to imagine a house with zero Ethernet devices and zero printers. No media servers? AppleTV? etc.
"Coverge" numbers are advertising hype. WiFi radios have power limits imposed by the FCC (in the US, by other agencies world wide). The signal strength achieved by WiFi routers is roughly the same. Actual coverage is a function of placement and building construction.