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christoepherr
Jun 26, 2023Tutor
Upgraded Orbi router - CenturyLink can no longer connect
Hello community. Having a little bit of trouble here. I had an RBR850 with two satellites connected via ethernet backhaul. Internet always worked like a charm for the past year. Then I recently purch...
- Jan 29, 2024
It seems there is a bug with the Orbi 960 and 970 Series with CenturyLink PPOE. I switched my ISP to Quantum Fiber since CenturyLink is pushing it heavily in Seattle to switch. Now that I've switched to Quantum (which doesn't use PPOE) I have had no issues. Hopefully Netgear can resolve the bug for other CenturyLink PPOE users.
CrimpOn
Dec 01, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Could you please double check that the 2.5G port is set to "Regular LAN" rather than WAN aggregation?
page 70-71 in the user manual.
https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBKE963/RBRE960_RBSE960_UM_EN.pdf
This situation is totally unreal. There should make no difference which Ethernet port is used.
christoepherr
Dec 02, 2023Tutor
The port is not using WAN aggregation and is setup correctly. I’ve switched back to my 800 series.
Tried calling NETGEAR and they haven’t been able to resolve the issue yet. When I plug my laptop directly into each port in the 800 series everything works perfect. No lag when running a speed test. But then I go back to the 960 router and it’s extremely slow. It takes about 45 seconds to start the speed test and fails every time from ports 1 and 2. Speeds are still slow in ports 3 and 4. If I plug in directly to any port on the 960 just a simple google search can take about 50 seconds to load.
Tried calling NETGEAR and they haven’t been able to resolve the issue yet. When I plug my laptop directly into each port in the 800 series everything works perfect. No lag when running a speed test. But then I go back to the 960 router and it’s extremely slow. It takes about 45 seconds to start the speed test and fails every time from ports 1 and 2. Speeds are still slow in ports 3 and 4. If I plug in directly to any port on the 960 just a simple google search can take about 50 seconds to load.
- FURRYe38Dec 02, 2023Guru - Experienced User
What brand and model is this laptop that your using with speed testing connnected to the 960?
What CAT# LAN cable are you using when connected to the 10Gb and 2.5Gb ports? For good connection and performances, CAT6A STP is recommended, not UTP cabling.
What brand and model ISP ONT is the RBR connected too?
- christoepherrDec 02, 2023Tutor
I'm using a MacBook Pro 2020 (M1 Model). The cable says CAT6 UTP. I can use the same cable on all Ethernet ports on the RBR850. 900MB or more down all the time every time. No lag. No issues.
But bring the 960 in and I can't even perform a speed test from LAN ports 1 and 2 on the 960. I've attached a screenshot of the error message I get from speedtest.net. Same message every time. It takes about 60 seconds from when I click the GO button for the test to even start. It's usually instant on the RBR850. Plugging my laptop directly to ports 3 and 4 I can get a connection but speeds are abysmally slow.
I can try and order the cable you recommend to see if that helps. The RBR is connected to a casa fttdp box in the closet.
https://www.casa-systems.com/products/ntd/
- FURRYe38Dec 02, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Something to gather for NG support if your support ticket is still open, take a debug log capture while the 850 is online.
Then put the 960 online and take a debug log capture there. Ensure the WAN/LAN option is enabled on both.
Send these off to NG support.
Seems like if two different 960s are having same issues with this ISP ONT, possible there maybe a problem between the 960 and your ISP ONT. Something else to try, take the 960 over to a friend or family members place and see if the problem follows. Would be telling.
I just connected my 960 up and ran the following from a Windows PC and Mac Book Pro 2018 connected to the 2.5Gb LAN port, No LAG enabled:
Mac Book Pro 2018 connected using 1Gb USB to Ethernet adapter connected to 2.5Gb LAN port:
- christoepherrDec 08, 2023Tutor
So I bought some Cat6A STP cables. Issue still persists. I plugged into Ports 1 and 2 and speedtest.net test failed each time and I got socket error. Trying to browse the web hard wired is extremely slow. A simple Google search takes about two minutes to load. Plugged into Ports 3 and 4 and no issues.
- FURRYe38Dec 08, 2023Guru - Experienced User
So ethernet connected to ports 1 and 2 you have problems and then plugging into ports 3 and 4 on the RBR you don't have problems and things are good?
- bullm00nDec 08, 2023Virtuoso
Two different 960, both with bad ports, seems unlikely. I suppose it could happen if a bad batch got out.
I would test those same ports with a different device/computer and different jumper cable. In fact, I'd use the plainest old CAT5e cable you have or even CAT5 if you have any relics. And I say that because in my testing, short patches don't really matter. I have used 10' CAT5 cables from the 90s as a test and they work fine. Even the cable that comes in the box with the 960 is only CAT5e. At any rate, there has to be some weird combo going on there...or that unlikely as heck, bad batch of 960s. I have CAT5e all over our house and maybe even CAT5 - whatever they were using in 1996 when it was built! 😄 And my 960 and wired SATs work like a champ.
Good luck.
- christoepherrDec 12, 2023Tutor
That's correct. Anytime I connect to Ports 1 and 2, I do have a connection, but it's extremely slow. Speed test fails every time, always. Google.com takes about 1-2 minutes to load. Browsing websites with images is slow and images never load. They always show a broken image icon. When I mean slow I mean painfully slow. I wish I could tell you the speed, but the test fails every time.
Ports 3 and 4 have no issues. But this happened on the original RBR 960 and the replacement
- FURRYe38Dec 12, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Seems like if this is happening on two different 960s, something your connecting to ports 1 and 2 maybe causing problems?
What is the brand and model of the device and if this is a PC, what is the brand and model of the ethernet adapter?
And does this happen with only one device or happens with others?
- christoepherrDec 13, 2023Tutor
It's the MacBook Pro I mentioned earlier. It does this on all devices though. No matter what I plug into Ports 1 and 2 it's the same. Plugging in a Orbi satellite, a PS5, Apple TV, Windows PC, same issue occurs. Even plugging these devices into the satellite that's plugged into ports 1 or 2, same issue.
I've tried everything I can think of but no luck
- FURRYe38Dec 14, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Has NG support responded to your feedback with this problem being seen across two RBRs?
- FURRYe38Jan 27, 2024Guru - Experienced User
So any updates or progress on this? 😉
- christoepherrJan 29, 2024Tutor
It seems there is a bug with the Orbi 960 and 970 Series with CenturyLink PPOE. I switched my ISP to Quantum Fiber since CenturyLink is pushing it heavily in Seattle to switch. Now that I've switched to Quantum (which doesn't use PPOE) I have had no issues. Hopefully Netgear can resolve the bug for other CenturyLink PPOE users.
- FURRYe38Jan 30, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Great to hear. Thank you for letting us know.
Be sure to save off a back up configuration to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed.
https://kb.netgear.com/000062080/How-do-I-back-up-the-configuration-settings-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
Enjoy. 📡