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Burnmaster
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Apr 27, 2022
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What is the right Orbi model to buy for 3-floor house with a network switch

This weekend i bought an Orbi RKE963 Mesh as a replacement for my current setup consisting of 1 router and 2 access points all connected via a network switch.  Setting up was pretty horrible. One sattelite was fine, the other never connected.  When using a wired connection, the sattelites appeared as devices instead of sattelites.  After reading up, i concluded that a mesh wifi with wireless backhaul is useless when you are using a network switch and wires are available, the units are also unable to connect to eachother wirelessly, i returned the unit.

 

But in the end i still need buying advice.  I have 3 floors and a lot of concrete, but i have foreseen a place for access points on each floor.

I would like to have overall good seamless wifi coverage on all floors.  Today i just used the same SSID for router and access points, but if you move from one place to another the signal becomes terrible on a device until it connects to another access point.  

 

I would need the idea of a mesh setup but one that has a dedicated ethernet backhaul.  Wireless backhaul is useless, there is so much concrete that the units are barely able to send something via that way.

  • CrimpOn's avatar
    CrimpOn
    Apr 28, 2022

    Burnmaster wrote:

    So my question is more which unit is the right one for my situation ?


    Accepting that the product search has been narrowed to Netgear (although I am not certain why), there needs to be a router in the basement (because (a) that is where the ISP modem is and (b) that is where all the Ethernet cables terminate) plus one WiFi access point on each of the three floors. (Because the concrete floors will not support WiFi connection between floors -[all of them?])

     

    The residential WiFi6 (AX) products support almost every existing device.  The 850 series has slightly higher capacity than the 750.

    The business WiFi6 (AX) products have similar hardware, but offer more substantial capability in terms of setting up sophisticated networks.

     

    It's a matter of cost vs. capability.  The more you spend, the more you get.  For example, that 960 product will support WiFi6E products when someone begins selling them.

     


    Burnmaster wrote:

    The 960 product (which has been returned?) has an added wrinkle that the router and each satellite have a 2.5G Ethernet port, which means that one of the upstairs satellites can be connected to the router at 2.5G.

    >>> Does this mean that only one of the sattelites can be used in this way, what happens with the second sattelite ?


    Since the router has only one 2.5G Ethernet port, it can be connected to one device at 2.5G (a 2.5G switch, a 2.5G server, or one of the satellite 2.5G ports).  If it connects to a satellite, then the remaining satellites can connect at 1G.  If it goes to a 2.5G switch, then *probably* all the satellites can connect at 2.5G.

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  • What Firmware version is currently loaded?
    What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

    What is the Mfr and model# of the ethernet switch in the configuration?
    https://kb.netgear.com/000051205/What-is-Ethernet-backhaul-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System 📡

     

    What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
    What is the distance between the router and 📡 satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS📡 to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
    https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite 📡

     

    I have a 5000sq ft home and my RBK993 works well. Thought I don't really need the extra RBS, I can turn down the transmit power on the system to 50% and all runs nicely with the extra RBS. RBS can be ethernet or wireless connected.

    • Burnmaster's avatar
      Burnmaster
      Aspirant

      The house is about 1500ft, cellar and 2 floors.  So not really extreme.  But the router is in a concrete cellar, almost no signal comes out of there.

      My current router is a d-link D-Link DGS-1210-48.  A 48 port switch with 1Gbps.

      My modem is from the ISP provider, i don't know the brand name.

       

      I read the ethernet backhaul manual, but the Orbi sattelites have 1 2.5Gb ethernet port, and 3 Gb ports.  I tried connecting the ethernet 2.5 Gb port to the switch but that didn't work, it worked for 1 sattelite with the normal 1Gb Ethernet ports but in the app it only appeared as a device instead of a sattelite.

       

      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru

        Burnmaster wrote:

        The house is about 1500ft, cellar and 2 floors.  So not really extreme.  But the router is in a concrete cellar, almost no signal comes out of there. For this size of home, you may only need a RBR and maybe 1 RBS. 

        Basements are not recommended places or locations for the main host router. All that concrete and steel can cause wifi problems. 

        My house is 5000sq ft home 3 levels and the 1 RBR and 1 RBS work well for me, though I can have the 2nd RBS online. I turn down the power though when I do this. 

         

        My current router is a d-link D-Link DGS-1210-48.  A 48 port switch with 1Gbps. <The DGS would be switch and not a router. 

        You could ethernet connect the RBS, however the RBS would be limited to the 1Gb rate if you used this switch. 

        My modem is from the ISP provider, i don't know the brand name.

        There a picture of the front and back of this modem? 

         

        I read the ethernet backhaul manual, but the Orbi sattelites have 1 2.5Gb ethernet port, and 3 Gb ports.  I tried connecting the ethernet 2.5 Gb port to the switch but that didn't work, it worked for 1 sattelite with the normal 1Gb Ethernet ports but in the app it only appeared as a device instead of a sattelite. Yes, RBS have 1 2.5Gb port and the rest are 1Gb ports. I recommend if you want to connect them using the 2.5Gb port, you'll need to upgrade the switch to something that supports 2.5Gb or higher. Otherwise, use the 1Gb ports.