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VerneArase
Mar 28, 2021Apprentice
Wired backhaul worth it for an AX6000 system?
 *Sigh* ... I really have an RBK853 (AX6000) system, even though that's not an option in the forums even now.     I'm thinking of wiring my house for ethernet and I've secured all the cable and equipm...
bullm00n
Mar 30, 2021Virtuoso
Yes, bummer about that dropdown box that doesn't include our gear.
When I first set up our AX6000, I tried my single satellite wired and wireless backhaul and there was not an obvious difference when using OOKLA to test speeds.  I only tried this over a couple of days, but either seemed to work as well.  My best speeds with my iPhone were in the 700s.  Depending on where I am in the house I can get anywhere from 350-750 Mbps.  I have the wire in place, so I could switch back to wired but for now I'm leaving it wireless.  Theoretically the wireless backhaul should be capable of higher speeds.  I should connect a wired device to the wireless satellite and test setup that for a better comparison that would isolate the backhaul performance.  My wired devices are getting 950 Mbps on a good day. :) So I will do that test when I have some time. 
Good luck with your wiring. If I were doing it, I'd put the wire in place even if wireless works - at some point you may want to do something differently and I figure while you are in the middle of pulling cable, may as well do all of it and get it out of the way.
VerneArase
Mar 30, 2021Apprentice
I'm getting about 680-720/41.2-41.6 mbps through a LAN cable from my office satallite to my iMac 5K, but about 941/39.5 directly out of the main router (now that Speedtest is working again).
The office iMac to the Synology downstairs is a pretty consistent 60-66 MB/sec which ethernet should improve to a little less than a gigabyte.
If you use ethernet backhaul, does the Orbi free up the backhaul radios for other devices?
I'm thinking of putting a 2 10gb / 8 1gb unmanaged switch in the utility room with a 10 gb and 1 gb going to the Synology and Orbi router in the family room, a 10 gb and 1gb going up to my office for the iMac and Orbi satellite, a 1gb going up to my wife's office, and 1 gb going up to the living room for the Living Room satellite. That'll get spread by switch to the various living room devices and daisy chained to the dining room where my wife has a computer and we have another iMac 5K. The Living Room to Dining Room feed will have to go up in the attic with drops down two walls, an interior and an exterior.
Can you run the backhaul through a switch, or does each router <-> satellite connection require it's own (topologically speaking) wire? If that's the case, that would mean two additional 1 gb runs from the router to each of the satellites in the Living Room and Office.
- FURRYe38Mar 31, 2021Guru - Experienced UserNo you can run a switch in between. I have 1 8 port switch off the RBR, then two other sub 5 port switches after that. One RBS ethernet connected to each of those sub switches. Daisy Chaining switchs works fine. 
- DatabaseJaseMar 31, 2021Luminary
 VerneArase wrote:If you use ethernet backhaul, does the Orbi free up the backhaul radios for other devices? The wireless backhaul can not be used by devices even with wired backhaul in place as that is dedicated to wireless backhaul only. Another thing I would say is to wire as many devices as you can to either the RBR850 or RBS850 simply to reduce as much radio chatter in your household as possible. Downstairs our TV, Xbox, Sky Q and a SONOS Soundbar are wired to the RBR850. That way only mobile devices (tablets, phones, etc.) are using wireless. - bullm00nApr 01, 2021VirtuosoI did a quick test like I said I would. The computer I ran speedtest on is usually directly wired to a switch that goes to the orbi and then to the WAN. The first result of 928 Mbps is that setup from a month ago. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th results in the 600s are with that computer wired into the BRS850 satellite port with the satellite using wireless backhaul. The final result of 950 Mbps is with the satellite using wired backhaul, which is clearly better for my installation. - FURRYe38Apr 01, 2021Guru - Experienced UserThanks for posting your results. Good to see that is working well for you. Enjoy,. :smileywink: 
 bullm00n wrote:I did a quick test like I said I would. The computer I ran speedtest on is usually directly wired to a switch that goes to the orbi and then to the WAN. The first result of 928 Mbps is that setup from a month ago. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th results in the 600s are with that computer wired into the BRS850 satellite port with the satellite using wireless backhaul. The final result of 950 Mbps is with the satellite using wired backhaul, which is clearly better for my installation.