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theBrick89
Oct 24, 2019Star
WPA3 issues
I just repalced my RBK52 to RBK852 and so far everything works great except major WPA3 hiccup I thought WPA3 supposed to be a backward compatible but some devices cannot connect the network if I set...
theBrick89
Oct 24, 2019Star
Both my iMac and iPhone 11 Pro runs on newest developer preview build of the OS. They don't have any issue creating initial connection to RBK852's WPA3 network then randomly drops out the connection.
and also, if I remember correctly, WPA3 spec should include backward compatibility to WPA2 devices
FURRYe38
Oct 24, 2019Guru - Experienced User
I've only tested WPA3 out for a short while. I didn't see any issues with my iphone. Since thats the only device I have currently that supports it. I changed back to WPA2 and AES.
I would review the spec to see if it's supposed to be back wards compatible or not. WPA2 was not backwards compatible with WPA. WPA2 has two modes, TPIK an AES. Most router mfrs inplemented a mixed WPA and WPA2 mode setting that allowed WPA and WPA2 devices to connect to the same router at the same time using the different security modes. This is what provides backwards compatibility. Also device Mfrs will need to update there devices as well to support WPA3.
WPA3 is SAE, Simultaneous Authentication of Equals. I see two modes, Personal and Enterprise.
https://www.wi-fi.org/news-events/newsroom/wi-fi-alliance-introduces-wi-fi-certified-wpa3-security
It will be up to both device Mfr and router mfrs to implement this I presume as we have seen in the past with WPA and WPA2.
- schumakuOct 24, 2019Guru - Experienced User
No hands-on experience with the WiFi 6 Orbi system here, so I can be completely wrong: Suspect the confusion is similar to the Nighthawk AX models wireless security settings - if an AP is configured to WPA3 it does not automatically allow WPA2. The misunderstanding is because WPA3 and WPA2 can be allowed concurrently on each radio, this does not make it backward compatible (as far to often mentioned in the net...).
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When setting it to "WPA3 (Personal)" it will only allow WPA3 ... no backward compatibility.
Set the router to WPA3 (Personal) + WPA2 (AES, Personal) ... this will allow the WPA3 with backward compatibility to WPA2-AES (only, no TKIP, so probably some legacy devices might fail to associate).
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-> RAX120 WPA3 "Security Setting"?
Due to compatibility issues with some WPA3-capable clients, we had to revert from WPA3 to WPA2 (AES, Personal) for a while, too.
- FURRYe38Oct 24, 2019Guru - Experienced User
This is the mixed mode I referred to. Once NG implements this on the 850 RBR, then users will have backwards compability. Currently there is no mixed mode, It's either WPA3 stand alone or WPA and WPA2 mixed. NG will need to get WPA, WPA2 and WPA3 mixed modes to play all together for backwards compatibility.
- schumakuOct 24, 2019Guru - Experienced User
FURRYe38 wrote:Currently there is no mixed mode, It's either WPA3 stand alone or WPA and WPA2 mixed. NG will need to get WPA, WPA2 and WPA3 mixed modes to play all together for backwards compatibility.
Seriously?!? Oh nooooooo what a *****. Would have checked the fine documentation, however there is still no Orbi (AX) User Manual publisehd.